Re: [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree, you seem to not understand Orbit, I tried to edit, but got
"conflict" with your edits, but still see your "list of concerns" about
Orbit in the summary, which I don't understand. Here is what I was going to
say about Orbit:

Orbit provides a centralized clearing house for IP policy approved 3rd
party dependencies. [dw edits, 02/17/2012] <del>Orbit provides this
software as a zip file containing bundles for all software. This would be
better if it were componentized so that just what is needed can be
consumed.</del> Orbit provides this software as a p2 repository, so only
those bundles required by a build need to be fetched from that repository.
The standard PDE build does this transparently. [not sure about others
build systems.] A large archive file of the while p2 repository is
provided, for those that prefer to have their own copy on, say, on some
"off site" server so they can do builds disconnected from the internet.

I think you might be trying to "talk around" the main Orbit complaint which
is "there is no mavenized version of Orbit bundles"? No?






From:	Andrew Ross <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	Common-build Developers discussion <cbi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:	02/17/2012 10:59 AM
Subject:	Re: [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
Sent by:	cbi-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



Thanks for the quick feedback and correction Kim. I removed that concern. I
saw the zip, but wasn't sure if people were pulling it or accessing the
bundles inside directly off a URL.

On 02/17/2012 10:53 AM, Kim Moir wrote:
      Andrew,

      I'm confused by your statement "Orbit provides this software as a zip
      file containing bundles for all software. This would be better if it
      were componentized so that just what is needed can be consumed. "

      Orbit provides p2 repos full of nice bundle components :-)

      http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/R20120119162704/orbitBundles-R20120119162704.p2.map


      We don't download the zip, we just consume the bundles we need and
      have been approved to consume from the Orbit repos.

      Kim




      From:        Andrew Ross <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      To:        Common-build Developers discussion <cbi-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      Date:        02/17/2012 09:40 AM
      Subject:        [cbi-dev] Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
      Sent by:        cbi-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



      Hi Everyone,

      I wanted to share some thoughts around Orbit, maven.eclipse.org, etc.
      as
      I feel it is very important, a deceptively big problem at the moment,

      and I don't think I articulated my thoughts well up to this point.
      This
      wiki page attempts to do so:
      http://wiki.eclipse.org/CBI/Distribution

      I'd like to discuss this as part of the agenda at next week's CBI
      meeting. I'm sure the information on the wiki could use more details
      for
      completeness/correctness, so please help make it so in what ever way
      is
      most convenient for you such as editing the wiki, replying to this
      list,
      calling me, etc.

      Thanks very much,

      Andrew
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