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Re: [4diac-dev] Reworking Deployment/Download

Hi Alois,

i think replace would be more logical.


best regards
Michael 




> Am 09.05.2018 um 20:43 schrieb Alois Zoitl <alois.zoitl@xxxxxx>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> today while copying a file I noticed a dialog which asked if I want to
> replace the file at the location with the one I copied. Therefore I'm
> curios if you think that replace would be a better term then overwrite
> for this dialog.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alois
> 
> 
>> On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 21:12 +0200, Alois Zoitl wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>>> On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 17:44 +0200, Michael Golz wrote:
>>> Hi Alois,
>>> 
>>> i think override/override all and cancel/cancel all will be enough.
>>> It may sound good to merge but there can be a lot goes wrong.
>> 
>> I was not so sure about the override all. Wouldn't it be dangerouse
>> as
>> I may not remember what resources/devices will be downloaded and then
>> I
>> may kill something I don't want (e.g., running machine). Should there
>> be a second dialog with a list of all resources to be downloaded for
>> configuration on override all?
>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to have a function to create and write the fboot in
>>> the
>>> runtime back to the file system, then i can remove my own upload
>>> tool.
>> 
>> Sound like a conveniant feature. Even if I don't know how to
>> implement
>> it :-)
>> Could you be so kind and create an issue for that in our bugzilla so
>> that we don't loos it.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the great work!
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Sunny greetings from Egypt
>>> Michael
>> 
>> Enjoy the sun,
>> Alois
>> 
>>> 
>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>> 
>>>> Am 26.04.2018 um 10:38 schrieb Alois Zoitl <alois.zoitl@xxxxxx>:
>>>> 
>>>> Now with the 1.9.0 release finished I think its time to look
>>>> ahead
>>>> and
>>>> start pondering about what we would like to have in 1.10.
>>>> 
>>>> One part we haven’t spent to much work on in recent releases is
>>>> the
>>>> download process and the deployment console. There I several
>>>> issues
>>>> that should be fixed.  With this thread I would like to start the
>>>> discussion and planing for potential improvements here. 
>>>> 
>>>> One thing that I think would make 4diac much easier to use if we
>>>> would
>>>> better handle downloading the same resource several times (i.e.,
>>>> the
>>>> infamous “Invalid State”error). 
>>>> 
>>>> I was thinking that the on the beginning of a download the
>>>> devices
>>>> should be queried on the currently running resources and if the
>>>> resource to deploy the user should be asked how to proceed. For
>>>> such a
>>>> dialog I drafted a first mock up with different actions for such
>>>> a
>>>> dialog. 
>>>> 
>>>> My questions on it are:
>>>>   • Is this the right approach?
>>>>   • Is there information missing in the dialog's text.
>>>>   • Is it clear that “overwrite” means that the currently
>>>> running
>>>> resource will be deleted and the current config will be
>>>> downloaded
>>>>   • Is a merge feasible, or would it lead to very complicated
>>>> even
>>>> dangerous situations?
>>>>   • Is a cancle and a cancle all needed or only one of both?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In addition to this I also heard from several users that the
>>>> switch
>>>> to
>>>> the deployment console is very cumbersome and disturbs the
>>>> development
>>>> flow. Therefore getting rid of it and integrating it into the
>>>> system
>>>> perspective could also be a goal. Here I don’t have not really an
>>>> idea
>>>> how to do this.
>>>> 
>>>> Looking forward to your ideas and comments,
>>>> Alois
>>>> <ResourceQuestionMockUp.png>
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