[news.eclipse.tools] Re: Split up this newsgroup?

["Darin Swanson" <Darin_Swanson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Things seem to be happening...I saw three new newsgroups this morning:
    eclipse.platform
    eclipse.platform.swt
    eclipse.tools.jdt

Darins

"Bob Foster" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:b7kulg$7nk$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Cedric Beust" <no.email@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Xns935FB1AF4A9A1noemailpleasecom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > "Bob Foster" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:b7i1ja$7rd$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >
> > > 1. Don't discuss it in private; discuss it in the bug.
> > > 2. Don't wait for consensus. Won't ever happen. Get some proposals on
> the
> > > table, including Do Nothing. Call for votes.
> >
> > I think these two proposals contradict each other...
>
> No, consensus and buy-in are two different things. The feeling of having
> been part of the process is important in political organizations.
>
> > Absolutely do *not* discuss it in public.  Call a meeting, lock a few
> > people in a room and come up with a solution.  The benefit of having
more
> > focused newsgroups will by far outweigh the protests from people
> > disagreeing with the decision.
>
> It would seem negative to disagree with every point, so I'm trying to pick
a
> point to agree with. Oh yeah, got it. ;-}
>
> I completely agree! The closed-room approach has far outweighed the
protests
> of people who don't like the current organization for the past couple of
> years!
>
> > That being said, I believe that at least everybody will agree on the
> > necessity of eclipse.announce :-)
>
> God, no. Nobody subscribes to an announce group. People who announce
things
> want to reach people, so they will just cross-post in more or less subtle
> ways.
>
> Sorry.
>
> Bob
>
>