[news.eclipse.tools] Re: having trouble using ViewerSorter

[gilles.philippart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Gilles Philippart)]

Eduardo : 

Our point is to write a business application. There's no concept of file,
folders, or project in it. Eclipse has been designed to be extensible, and
I think it is, but IMHO projects, files, folders and other IDE concerns
shouldn't be tied so much to the Eclipse core. Maybe you could extract
those into a common plugin that would be required by other IDE-oriented
plugins.

I find the following components very interesting with regard to business
application development : Workbench, autoupdate, help, and swt (very fast,
very pretty).

I find the workbench UI interesting : perspective concept, dockable views,
JFace framework... 
The business screen interoperability could be ensured by common underlying
objects manipulated by the workbench and would be defined in our case as
business entities (with their own icons ;).

Eclipse would totally ROCK as an applicative platform if it weren't so
tied to its IDE breed. I think i will definitely open a feature request :)


Gilles Philippart






Eduardo Pereira wrote:

> You could remove the CVS, Java and PDE menus by not having these plugins in
> your application (at least the UI plugins since these components are all
> divided in Core and UI plugins). But you can't remove the Project menu and
> the New-File/Folder/Project menus. Of course a feature request can be opened
> for that.

> IMO and I think that is the main idea of eclipse, plugins should be written
> to run on top of eclipse and they should be integrated with each other so
> the end user would end up with one single and integrated application instead
> of having to deal with many applications.

> In case you really want a separated application; Do you still want support
> for project management, version control, java tooling or it would only use
> the Workbench framework (Windows,Views,Editors etc)?

> Eduardo Pereira.

> "Gilles Philippart" <gilles.philippart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9u6f4d$33j$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > John,
> >
> > Could you please shed some light too on the second concern of Tiger :
> >    BTW, I've got another problem : i'd like to use Eclipse for a Business
> >    application and I dont want the end-user to have access to menu like
> >    "Project", "Import/Export", "Create new Java/File ..." : any ideas ??
> >
> > Thanks in advance :)
> >
> > Gilles Philippart
> >
> >