[news.eclipse.tools.pdt] Re: Question about using the internal debugger

[Nick Boldt <codeslave@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not even sure what tutorial you're talking about, but it sounds like 
it would benefit from either:

a) being opened in another browser (not in Eclipse) so it's not 
blocking, or

b) being converted to use Cheat Sheets to drive the action (so it's 
blocking only when it needs to be, ie., when you haven't completed a step)

For (a) the solution would be to have the PDT help stuff hosted at 
help.eclipse.org so it's accessible independent of Eclipse (or to open 
the help stuff in an external browser, not the embedded-in-Eclipse one).

For (b), if you can point me at the tutorial, maybe I can find time 
somewhere to cheatsheet'ify this?

Nick

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Richard Geddes wrote:
> b) I've been using the onboard update tool... shouldn't that get me to 
> the latest versions?
>
> Yes this procedure did work for me... I was able to complete the PDT 
> Basic Tutorial debugger section.
>
> Comments:
> a) It looks to me like this code is not used too frequently... therefore 
> the issues with installing it.  Because it's used in the tutorial (ie 
> people are learning) I would say most people will probably lose interest 
> in PDT, as there is a plethora of other tools available, assuming the 
> tutorial is an entry point into PDT adoption.
>
> b) While doing any eclipse tutorial from the Help section within 
> eclipse, when asked to activate a dialog, the scrolling and other 
> actions are disabled on the help window.  So eg, while following along a 
> tutorial, the directions say "open this dialog and enter some stuff from 
> a few steps before in the tutorial"... oops, can't scroll back to that 
> spot if it's out of view.. cancel the dialog... go back... copy... 
> restart the dialog... paste.
>
>
> Thanks for your help
> R
>
> Nick Boldt wrote:
> > > b) WTP     1.1.10x
> >
> > I hope you mean 2.0 -- 
> > http://download.eclipse.org/tools/pdt/downloads/release.php?release=R20080103 
> >
> >
> > > Update operation has failed
> > >   Error retrieving 
> > > "plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger.linux.x86_64_0.0.0.jar". [Server 
> > > returned HTTP response code: "404 Not Found" for URL: 
> > > http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger.linux.x86_64_0.0.0.jar.] 
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like there's something wrong with the Zend update site. Here's 
> > the manual install hack:
> >
> > 0. shut down Eclipse
> >
> > 1. download these
> >
> > http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger_5.2.10.v20070905.jar 
> >
> > http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger.linux.x86_64_5.2.10.v20070905.jar 
> >
> > http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/features/org.zend.php.debug_feature_5.2.10.v20070905.jar 
> >
> >
> > 2. put the feature jar in features/ and the plugin jars in plugins/
> >
> > 3. unpack them all into like-named folders
> >
> > eclipse/plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger_5.2.10.v20070905/
> > eclipse/plugins/org.zend.php.debug.debugger.linux.x86_64_5.2.10.v20070905/ 
> >
> > eclipse/features/org.zend.php.debug_feature_5.2.10.v20070905/
> >
> > 4. restart Eclipse
> >
> > Does that work? (FWIW, all the php I do is for the web, so I just use 
> > apache for debugging. print and print_r() FTW.)