[news.eclipse.tools.hyades] Re: Hyades Vision?

[mgn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Mike Norman)]

Hey Will

I\'m on the case.  There\'s a vision document under construction.  I\'m
working with the various committers to pull this together.  We\'re close
to resolution on a number of thorny areas. Should be published in a week
or so.

I don\'t want to comment on commercial motivations and plans of other
companies but trust me, the project is not being driven by Rational\'s
need to integrate its product set. 

Mike Norman
CEO, Scapa Technologies
Project lead

westes wrote:

> I have read through the Hyades Vision document \"Automated Software Quality
> for Eclipse\".  While I understand the generalization that it is attractive
> for different test tools to share a common infrastructure, I did not
> perceive a clear vision for how that will look and feel under Hyades.   To
> put this into the framework of a design process, I read business
> requirements, and I read what seemed like high level systems diagrams, but I
> did not see clear use cases nor did I see user interface (UI) design.

> As a result I have problems imagining where Hyades will end and where a
> third-party plug-in to Hyades will begin.   Is the intent to have a \"Hyades
> Perspective\" in which tools are integrated in a common look and feel?
> This seems a logical conclusion from the project\'s goals to have tools share
> infrastructure, but the one prototype tool I could find was a Java profiler
> that implements its own Eclipse Perspective and does not seem to have any
> common UI elements that would be shared by other tools.   Without a
> compelling user interface for integration, I think it will be hard to get
> tools developers to commit.   The vision is compelling, but the
> implementation has to be compelling as well.

> We have developed a performance-oriented load testing tool, written
> primarily in Java, but able to interact with other languages within the
> client agent environment.    We are anxious to understand how we might add
> value under Eclipse in general, and now also under Hyades.  Is Hyades being
> driven primarily by Rational\'s internal needs to integrate its own toolset?

> --
> Will Estes                                         U.S. Computer Software,
> Inc.

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