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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: [buckminster-dev] Re:	Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Thomas Hallgren wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>I'd rather have it in a bundle of it's own but included in the core UI 
feature. Perhaps that's what you meant?</tt><br>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:48:54 GMT</pubDate>
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		<description> I&amp;#39;d rather have it in a bundle of it&amp;#39;s own but included in the core UI feature. Perhaps that&amp;#39;s what you meant?Definitely Thomas. That&amp;#39;s what I meant, sorry for the confusion. Cheers,Guillaume </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Thomas Hallgren <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@xxxxxxx">thomas@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div class="im">Guillaume Chatelet wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Totally agree with you Henrik. Let&#39;s put it in the UI Bundle.<br>
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I&#39;d rather have it in a bundle of it&#39;s own but included in the core UI feature. Perhaps that&#39;s what you meant?</blockquote><div><br>Definitely Thomas. That&#39;s what I meant, sorry for the confusion.<br><br>

Cheers,<br>Guillaume<br></div></div>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: [buckminster-dev] Re:	Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description>I'd rather have it in a bundle of it's own but included in the core UI feature. Perhaps that's what you meant? Regards, Thomas Hallgren </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Guillaume Chatelet wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Totally agree with you Henrik. Let's put it in the UI Bundle.
</tt></blockquote><tt><br>I'd rather have it in a bundle of it's own but included in the core UI feature. Perhaps that's what 
you meant?</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Regards,
Thomas Hallgren</pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:17:50 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: [buckminster-dev] Re:	Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description> I have not tried it, but the screnshoots look really good. I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly) a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles. - henrik _______________________________________________ buckminster-dev mai...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Totally agree with you Henrik. Let&#39;s put it in the UI Bundle.<br>It&#39;s just 2 more dependencies to zest : quite alright.<br><br>Guillaume<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Henrik Lindberg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:henrik.lindberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx">henrik.lindberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">Thomas Hallgren wrote:<br>
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Johannes,<br>
I tried this and I&#39;m amazed. <br>
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I have not tried it, but the screnshoots look really good.<div class="im"><br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
How do we package this in Buckminster? Should we add a special &#39;Dependency Visualization&#39; feature or should we simply include it in the core UI distribution? Opinions welcome.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly)<br>
a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles.<br><font color="#888888">
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- henrik</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:22:18 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description>Johannes, this looks great! Achim </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Johannes, this looks great!

&gt; 
&gt;&gt; How do we package this in Buckminster? Should we add a special
&gt;&gt; 'Dependency Visualization' feature or should we simply include it in the
&gt;&gt; core UI distribution? Opinions welcome.
&gt;&gt;
&gt; I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly)
&gt; a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles.
&gt; 

+1

Achim



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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:09:03 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description>It's OK to attach a zip containing the project as a whole. That's easy enough to do, but before that I should probably put everything in a shape that's acceptable for the buckminster team and the foundation, because once it's commited it would be a lot har...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Johannes,</pre><br>
<tt>Johannes Utzig wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>... by 'patch' you mean just a copy of the source, right? Or how 
would I create a patch against a repository where the plugin is not yet 
checked in?
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>It's OK to attach a zip containing the project as a whole.</pre><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Some things to think about before you submit the code:</pre><br>
<tt>1. You need to add an 'about.html' file stating that the code is EPL 
1.0 to the plug-in (see attachement).<br>
2. The 'about.html' must be included in the binary build of the 
bundle, i.e. checked on the manifest editor 'Build' tab.<br>
3. You probably want to add a copyright notice to the head of each 
source file.</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt>That's easy enough to do, but before that I should probably put 
everything in a shape that's acceptable for the buckminster team and the 
foundation, because once it's commited it would be a lot harder to do 
stuff like string externalization, api-doc,... because I'd need to 
provide all that as separate patches, right?<br>
Where can I look-up the things like coding guidelines, naming 
conventions, icon conventions,...?</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt>Actually, what I'm after is things that might be significant in your initial contribution. The EPL 
affinity is such a thing and if you want to retain your own copyright, you need to do that too 
before your initial submission.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The code will be reformatted according to the Buckminster Formatting rules and the project will have 
preferences set that will enforce this before it's checked in.</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>There's also a really dirty implementation hack that I'd rather not see 
in a released version, unfortunately I couldn't find another way. I 
wanted to open the selected component's cspec on double click, but it 
turned out that you don't export the package that contains the 
CSpecEditorInput. I worked my way around by subclassing 
ViewChosenCSpecAction and invoke its run method, but that's really nasty...<br>
Would there be another way to open a cspec, or should it stay like that?</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;">Let it remain like that for now. This can be refactored once the patch is in.</pre><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Either way sounds fine to me, but I should point out that I'm pretty 
much the only person that tested this plugin so far. Bundeling it with 
the core UI feature could give users the impression that it's a well 
tested and mature feature, but maybe that's just me.</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt>Of course it must be tested before we decide to release it but one important aspect of testing is to 
let the community at large get their hands on it and start hammering. Since this is a viewer, the 
bugs found in it will not be disruptive, so I'd rather see that happen sooner rather then later.</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">It's definetly not huge and here's a list of the dependencies:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.eclipse.core.runtime,
org.eclipse.zest.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.zest.layouts;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.ui;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.350&quot;,
org.eclipse.core.resources;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui.forms;bundle-version=&quot;3.4.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui.ide;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.350&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.sax;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.100&quot;</pre><br>
</blockquote><tt>Right. The only added dependencies here are the two zest bundles. The rest is already required from 
our own UI bundle.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Regards,
Thomas Hallgren</pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:23:05 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description>Hi Thomas, hi Henrik, comments inline. Thomas Hallgren schrieb: I'm glad that you want to include it, that's great. One dumb question about that: by 'patch' you mean just a copy of the source, right? Or how would I create a patch against a repository where...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Thomas, hi Henrik,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">comments inline.</pre><br>
<tt>Thomas Hallgren schrieb:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Johannes,<br>
I tried this and I'm amazed. It looks great and I don't think it needs 
further improvement at this stage. It's very useful as it is and I'd 
like to include it in Buckminster. In order to do that, you'd have to 
submit the code in a bugzilla so that we can get the IP approval process 
going (a contribution of this size must be scrutinized by the Eclipse 
EMO). A bugzilla with a proper patch will also give people a chance to 
voice their opinion about the patch.</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt>I'm glad that you want to include it, that's great. One dumb question 
about that: by 'patch' you mean just a copy of the source, right? Or how 
would I create a patch against a repository where the plugin is not yet 
checked in?</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Some things to think about before you submit the code:</pre><br>
<tt>1. You need to add an 'about.html' file stating that the code is EPL 1.0 
to the plug-in (see attachement).<br>
2. The 'about.html' must be included in the binary build of the bundle, 
i.e. checked on the manifest editor 'Build' tab.<br>
3. You probably want to add a copyright notice to the head of each 
source file.</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt>That's easy enough to do, but before that I should probably put 
everything in a shape that's acceptable for the buckminster team and the 
foundation, because once it's commited it would be a lot harder to do 
stuff like string externalization, api-doc,... because I'd need to 
provide all that as separate patches, right?<br>
Where can I look-up the things like coding guidelines, naming 
conventions, icon conventions,...?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>There's also a really dirty implementation hack that I'd rather not see 
in a released version, unfortunately I couldn't find another way. I 
wanted to open the selected component's cspec on double click, but it 
turned out that you don't export the package that contains the 
CSpecEditorInput. I worked my way around by subclassing 
ViewChosenCSpecAction and invoke its run method, but that's really nasty...<br>
Would there be another way to open a cspec, or should it stay like that?</tt><br>
<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>How do we package this in Buckminster? Should we add a special 
'Dependency Visualization' feature or should we simply include it in the 
core UI distribution? Opinions welcome.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Kind Regards,
Thomas Hallgren</pre><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt><br>Either way sounds fine to me, but I should point out that I'm pretty 
much the only person that tested this plugin so far. Bundeling it with 
the core UI feature could give users the impression that it's a well 
tested and mature feature, but maybe that's just me.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Henrik Lindberg schrieb:
&gt; I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly)
&gt; a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles.
&gt;
&gt; - henrik</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">It's definetly not huge and here's a list of the dependencies:</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">org.eclipse.core.runtime,
org.eclipse.zest.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.zest.layouts;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.ui;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.350&quot;,
org.eclipse.core.resources;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui.forms;bundle-version=&quot;3.4.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.ui.ide;bundle-version=&quot;3.5.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.1.350&quot;,
org.eclipse.buckminster.sax;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.0&quot;,
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.core;bundle-version=&quot;1.0.100&quot;</pre><br>
<tt><br>Until I hear more from you I'll add some java-doc, comments, do some 
code formatting, see if I can paint some better icons (I suck at that 
:)), externalize the strings, add the copyright statement and the licence.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>Thank you very much for your help and best regards,
Johannes</pre><br>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description>I have not tried it, but the screnshoots look really good. I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly) a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles. - henrik </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Thomas Hallgren wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Johannes,<br>
I tried this and I'm amazed. 
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;">I have not tried it, but the screnshoots look really good.</pre><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>How do we package this in Buckminster? Should we add a special 
'Dependency Visualization' feature or should we simply include it in the 
core UI distribution? Opinions welcome.</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;">I would put it in the buckminster UI unless it is (unexpectantly)
a) huge or b) there are issues with required bundles.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">- henrik</pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:00:59 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: Dependency Visualization</title>
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		<description> Title: About About This Content June 24, 2009 License The Eclipse Foundation makes available all content in this plug-in (&amp;quot;Content&amp;quot;). Unless otherwise indicated below, the Content is provided to you under the terms and conditions of the Eclipse Public Lic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Johannes,<br>
I tried this and I'm amazed. It looks great and I don't think it needs further improvement at this 
stage. It's very useful as it is and I'd like to include it in Buckminster. In order to do that, 
you'd have to submit the code in a bugzilla so that we can get the IP approval process going (a 
contribution of this size must be scrutinized by the Eclipse EMO). A bugzilla with a proper patch 
will also give people a chance to voice their opinion about the patch.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Some things to think about before you submit the code:</pre><br>
<tt>1. You need to add an 'about.html' file stating that the code is EPL 1.0 to the plug-in (see 
attachement).<br>
2. The 'about.html' must be included in the binary build of the bundle, i.e. checked on the manifest 
editor 'Build' tab.<br>
3. You probably want to add a copyright notice to the head of each source file.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>How do we package this in Buckminster? Should we add a special 'Dependency Visualization' feature or 
should we simply include it in the core UI distribution? Opinions welcome.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Kind Regards,
Thomas Hallgren</pre><br>
<tt><br>Johannes Utzig wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi,</pre><br>
<tt>I had some time since the last post to work an the visualization and 
these are the latest changes:</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>-better path highlighting. so far 3 kinds of relationships are 
implemented for highlighting:<br>
    -path to direct dependencies of the selected component<br>
    -path to components that directly require the selected component<br>
    -path to root request. (either shortest, or all)<br>
each way of highlighting can be selectively enabled/disabled and is 
additive to the other selected highlightings</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>-tooltips on components to reveal some details   
-sash form between navigation tree and graph viewer<br>
-better resize behavior<br>
-bugfixes<br>
-tidier code base and architecture</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Unfortunately something seems to be broken in the Zest zooming support, 
so that feature didn't make it into the visualization just yet and it's 
still just registered as a bom editor because I couldn't think of other 
useful integration points.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Apart from that it I think it's pretty usable already and I'm curious 
what you want me to add/change/do before you'd consider to accept it as 
a contribution.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Attached are some updated screenshots to get an impression as well as 
the exported bundle including source code.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Remarks for the screenshots:
light green = root component (either cquery root, or drilled down)
green = path to root component
orange = direct dependencies
blue = components that directly depend on the selected component
yellow = current selection</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Best regards,
Johannes</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.tools.buckminster-dev] Re: [buckminster-dev] Newbie	with ClearCase challenge...</title>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Hi Patrik,<br>
Buckminster has no support for ClearCase at present. It is designed with the intention to add this 
support at some point but so far, we have prioritized CVS, SVN, and Perforce. Mainly because we have 
not yet had any ClearCase users willing to contribute. I would love to see a ClearCase reader in 
Buckminster.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>That said, there are still ways to use Buckminster with CC. Buckminster is equipped with a reader 
type named 'local' that assumes that whatever should be bound to the workspace has been checked out 
already. The solution is of course a bit clunky but without a proper CC reader, it's the best we can do.</tt><br>
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<tt>And yes, property expansion is definitely possible in the RMAP. Please consult our documentation on 
this topic: <a  href="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/tools/buckminster/doc/BuckyBook.pdf">http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/tools/buckminster/doc/BuckyBook.pdf</a></tt><br>
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<tt>If there is an interest from your company or other CC users out there who would be interested in 
contributing in this area, I'd be happy to help you get started.</tt><br>
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<pre style="margin: 0em;">Kind Regards,
Thomas Hallgren</pre><br>
<tt><br>Patrik Schalin wrote:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">First I would like to state my newbie status on Buckminster and I'm sorry if
posting in the wrong forum (Could not find any &quot;Buckminster - Users&quot; forum).</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Looking at alternatives for a CI setup for multiple RCPs on a shared base
Buckminster comes out as the most obvious and mature candidate. Though I'm
very unfamiliar with it reading about the key concepts and the strong
integration with PDE gives me assurance.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Just have one small question that will help me answer if it is worth going
forth with some prototyping and in the long run abandon our existing ANT
based system...is it possible to make this work on a ClearCase env?</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">No need to set up views and stuff automagically but just being able to
handle resolving on views with different names. Is it possible to use
property expansion in the .rmap URIs e.g. env.CLEARCASEVIEW or
-Dclearcase.view.name=myView</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks
Patrik
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