[news.eclipse.technology.phoenix] Re: Icon Usage Re: Eclipse is looking

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Linda and Andrew,

You guys are doing really exciting work on design templates for 
eclipse.org.  Linda, thanks for linking us up with many UI elements of 
Eclipse. I think the Eclipse UI looks great, and if we can pull UI 
elements to make our website resemble the product, it will help 
associate the website to the actual product.

Keep up the good work, and I look forward to seeing your submission(s) 
on bugzilla!

Denis



Linda Watson wrote:
> hi Andrew,
>
> Attached is quick look at desktop icons in use on MS. Eclipse has icons 
> consistent with these metaphors.
> Would be good to gather Phoenix icon requirements to evaluate as a set?
>
> cheers, Linda
>
>
> Andrew Geraghty wrote:
>
> > Hey Linda and Jinsil
> >
> > This is great!  looks like we have some decent collaboration going on.
> > lets keep it rolling. And then submit something to Bugzilla together? 
> > My time moving forward is limited as
> > well but perhaps between all of us we can come up with something.
> >
> > A search icon is not necessary, but there has been alot of buzz around 
> > using the Eclipse Platform icons
> > carrying over the visual vocab. I agree that they should be consistent 
> > in usage. Is there a download icon?
> >
> > I like these banner treatments lets keep tweaking, keeping in mind 
> > that the menus will be dynamically generated.
> > That being said try to represent text with no anti-alias. I will put 
> > more up to show different layouts for different types of pages.
> > Keep in mind that in each of these treatments some columns will be 
> > fixed and other 100%
> > Would it be helpful to pass along the PSD files?
> >
> > Anyway enough banter,
> > I'll bang out some more ideas based on your feedback and mock ups
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > "Linda Watson" <lindawat@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> > news:dbribl$euh$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > >
> > > By way of intro, I'm the lead visual designer for the Eclipse UI,
> > > working primarily with the Eclipse Platform UI development team.
> > >
> > > Here's some feedback on the design...
> > >
> > > - overall nice work, like the simplicity and clean layout
> > > - the banner seems too dark and overpowering
> > > - placement of search box limits ability to add future top level 
> > > categories
> > > - search layout: relationship of icon to search text needs to be
> > > stronger, ie button. Is search icon necessary?  (see SearchBoxStyles.gif
> > > attached, simpler ideas)
> > > - because top level Categories will be used alot, reconsider white
> > > foreground text on black background for these - not easiest to read
> > >
> > > - building on what you've done, I'm attaching some quick mockups here
> > > and next note as ideas you might want to explore further in your next
> > > iterations (these aren't intended as final, polished designs). They were
> > > done by Jinsil Boo, a designer in the Toronto Lab Media Design Studio.
> > > - ideas 1 and 3 are problematic re not enough bread crumb space and
> > > limiting ability to add future categories, but sending in case you want
> > > to explore the style thoughts further
> > > - we are short of resource at this time re providing more design work or
> > > an official submission, but I'll look into this more and be in touch if
> > > we are able to.
> > >
> > > Re Eclipse UI icons...
> > >
> > > - Eclipse UI icons are available in icons folder at:
> > > http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.ui/
> > > - recommend you only re-use eclipse icons if the metaphor/usage is
> > > identical. Inconsistent usage will degrade the effectiveness of the 
> > > icon.
> > > - using the Eclipse icon appearance style may not be appropriate, for
> > > example, the Eclipse search icon on our mockups 4a, 4b looks bad on the
> > > banner. You could consider using the same metaphors where appropriate,
> > > but with an alternate "Eclipse web" style, perhaps an outline style
> > > - suggest you decide first what global set of  icons/metaphors will be
> > > needed, in what context, then evaluate  appropriateness of  UI icon
> > > re-use and style for the set
> > > - I'm also happy to help with any Eclipse icon questions you have
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Linda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew Geraghty wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Okay,
> > > > >
> > > > > again here are some drafts. I am looking for feedback before I 
> > > > > submit them
> > > > > formerly to bugzilla.
> > > > > Does anyone have the icons for Eclipse? I would like to integrate some
> > > > > Eclipse visual vocab. i.e. download icon...
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Andrew Geraghty" <andrew.geraghty@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > > news:d84rvn$pfo$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Call for Submissions - The New Eclipse.ORG Design Treatments
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Phoenix Project is looking for submissions of design
> > > > > >
> > > > > > treatments or skins for the Phoenix Project. For an overview of the
> > > > > > project
> > > > > > go to the Phoenix Project Page.
> > > > > > http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-phoenix/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Attached are four wire frames to give potential designers a starting
> > > > > >
> > > > > > point. Some of the design elements we would like to see include:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a.. a clean and uncluttered presentation that is readable at a
> > > > > > resolution
> > > > > > of 1024 x 768 and respects the font size set by browsers
> > > > > > b.. proper use of the Eclipse logo - See Eclipse Logo and Trademark
> > > > > > usage
> > > > > > guidelines http://www.eclipse.org/artwork/logo_guidelines.html
> > > > > > c.. effective use of Eclipse software icons, colour paletes and other
> > > > > > visual clues that could help potential users identify the web site 
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > product
> > > > > > d.. cascading menus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Submissions should be in Low Rez JPG, Gif or PNG Files (No HTML files
> > > > > > please) We will ask for the winning submission in EPS format.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All submissions are subject to the Eclipse Public License Agreement
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To post your submission post templates to bugzilla to use the voting
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > and comments. The templates will be voted on by the eclipse community
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > Bugzilla's voting mechanism.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How to submit a template:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Go to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs and create a bugzilla 
> > > > > > account if
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you don't have one already
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Create (report) a New bug in the Phoenix product.  Select the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Templates component.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Name your template. Write your template's name in the subject and
> > > > > >
> > > > > > comments sections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Commit your bug. Then click the "Back to bug #XXXXX" and attach a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .JPG or .PNG file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5. The community may comment on your template. Post updates to your
> > > > > >
> > > > > > template by creating a new attachment for the same bug.  Do not 
> > > > > > open a
> > > > > >
> > > > > > new bug for the same template.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Submission Due Date TBA
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