[News.eclipse.technology.packaging] Re: Eclipse Tools for Java Developer

[Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Wayne Beaton wrote:

> Ian Skerrett wrote:
>> Jochen Krause wrote:
>> 
>>> I propose that we remove VE from the list of provided features based
>>> on its current status.
>> 
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/ve-dev/msg01519.html
>> 
>>> Wayne, Ian, others, do you agree?
>> 
>> Can I suggest we delay this decision until Markus returns.   I believe
>> the VE team is close to making available their 3.3 support, so I would
>> like to give Markus a chance to evaluate it.
>> 
> 
> My feeling is that we need to have an actual release of VE if we're
> going to include it in the package. I have some cycles that I will
> dedicate to testing VE; hopefully this can be helpful in getting VE
> ready for Europa.
> 
> I agree with Ian that we should defer making this decision for a while...
> 
> Wayne

I am moving that decision from one week to another, because I really would
like to see the VE in our packages. From time to time I get an update from
Steve about his work and his progress, but I don't think that we can wait
any longer...

There are some reasons:

- If we had a VE status of 'just working', it would still need some time of
stabilising, user testing and feedback. EPP must deliver packages with a
stable and working content, and there is not enough time to reach that
level for VE.

- AFAIK the VE is build manually; there is no visible build process with
releases on an update site: EPP needs a working update site

- We can only include features from projects with an official release; that
means in particular that a release review is necessary. It sounds not
possible that this can be done in the VE project in time.

Therefore I would suggest to remove VE from our list of included features. I
will be happy to include it in a past Europa release!

Other opinions? 

Markus