[News.eclipse.technology.packaging] Re: Strawpack package proposal for J

[Krishna Venkatraman <kvenkatraman@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Wayne Beaton wrote:
> > Greetings all. I thought that I might take a stab at a useful 
> > exemplary configuration for the packaging project.
> >
> > I call this one "Java Enterprise Developer"
> >
> >     * Platform
> >     * JDT
> >     * Web tools
> >     * JSF + Dali
> >     * Visual Editor
> >     * Mylar
> >     * Tomcat | Jetty
> >     * XDoclet 1.2.3?
>
> No BIRT? No DataTools?
> I know, I know...we can't include everything. But those seems like 
> pretty in line with "enterprise" development (a somewhat poor name, if 
> you ask me - although I don't have anything better to offer; I use JEE 
> technologies for many projects that are not "enterprise.")
> Also, if the SOA tools (STP) is ready for prime-time, it would seem to 
> elong under the "enterprise" heading as well.
>
> What about Modeling stuff? Are you envisioning a separate Modeler package?
>
>
> > I've included Jetty on the list because I've been hearing a lot of 
> > rumbling about it. I'll be honest, I don't know very much about it, or 
> > even if it makes sense to include. I understand that platform is 
> > including it, and wonder if we might be able to leverage that. I 
> > believe that there is a web tools adapter for it (correct me if I'm 
> > wrong).
>
> There are a couple of Bugzilla entries to track the Jetty effort. I 
> think the gist is that it is replacing the bundled Tomcat stuff and will 
> be part of the platform (since Help will depend on it). Here's the bug 
> #s I have references to:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173692
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=138390
>
> Eric

How about Java EE developer and advanced Java EE Developer profiles?
Our experience with BIRT suggests that most if not all enterprise 
applications need reporting which would strongly suggest the need for 
birt in the advanced Java EE Developer profile. We have seen that most 
applications gather data of some sort, and developers very quickly 
figure out that users want to report on that data.

Krishna