[news.eclipse.technology.etf] Re: ETF and Equinox and Eclipse

["Paul Trevithick" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff,

Thanks for commenting. We welcome any and all input into what we're doing!

Ah, the login prompt. This is really the tip of the "how ETF relates to 
identity management" iceberg. Jamie Lewis of the Burton Group has been 
arguing that building identity management into tooling (e.g. Eclipse) is 
important to make it a lot easier for application developers to deal with 
these complex beasts. He's been encouraging us to talk with identity folks 
from IBM through Microsoft to SXIP and IdentityCommons, to see if ETF could 
be a toolkit/gateway into these systems, meta directories, etc. We hadn't 
gone seeking such a broad service virtualization challenge, but that's where 
some people would like us to go.

Regarding Equinox, In a sense we are addressing the "human/organizational" 
flip side to the "codebase" side that the Equinox team is doing. Scott Lewis 
of the ECF team (which we work with very closely) has made the terribly 
sound proposal to me the other day that Jay, he and I should arrange to talk 
at some point soon. From our perspective what Equinox is doing is largely 
complementary to our efforts, but there are some grey areas (e.g. keystores) 
where agree we need a dialogue.

How could we best learn about your perspective on what you think ETF should 
be? I noticed your Lotus connection, are you in Cambridge by any chance? 
Perhaps we could meet F2F?

Paul

"Jeff McAffer" <jeff_nospam_mcaffer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:ct913j$ukf$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> First, it is very exciting that people are looking at this -- long 
> overdue.
>
> I am curious to know what areas of Eclipse you expect to impact.  One of 
> the
> keys to success for this type of Technology project is early and frequent
> contact with the teams who are expected to receive the changes.  For
> example, there have been various mutterings about login prompts and keying
> plugin-sets to identity etc within the Runtime team.  This may or may not
> line up with what you are thinking.  Early discussion with that team might
> expose overlaps, alignments and/or disconnects.
>
> On a related note, it would be good to understand the overlap with the
> Equinox security work.  Things have been pretty quiet on the newsgroup etc
> but there is work going on.  I encourage you to look at what they've been
> doing and talk with them.
>
> Jeff
>
>