[news.eclipse.technology.epf] Re: OpenUP/DSDM

["Ricardo Balduino" <balduino@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Roman,

I wanted to follow up on this topic.
During our EPF planning meeting yesterday, we brought this topic to the 
table, and carefully considered the various options proposed. You may want 
to see the discussion that took place via email (Aug 7 and 8) and decisions 
captured on meeting notes (Aug 8) in our developers list here: 
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/epf-dev/maillist.html

In summary, given development constraints, and considering ease of adoption 
for major releases of OpenUP, we will keep the various plug-ins inside the 
OpenUP library in CVS, making those available for download in EPF web site, 
as they are organized now, on our weekly builds. For major milestones and 
releases though, we will have separate versions available for download:
- one with all plug-ins in the library
- one with OpenUP and Base Concepts in the library, plus various exported 
plug-ins individually available for download (which addresses your original 
request)

We hope that this solution addresses your request as a user, and also favors 
the development of various plug-ins in parallel with OpenUP.

Thanks for your feedback,

Ricardo Balduino.


"Ricardo Balduino" <balduino@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:f9aaej$sr6$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Roman,
>
> That's valuable feedback. I'll try to make this a topic for discussion in 
> tomorrow's planning session in order to see what we can do as part of 
> evolving OpenUP, DSDM and other plug-ins.
> In the mean time, Peter's suggestion should work nicely - you can delete 
> the DSDM configuration and plug-in from your library and work with OpenUP 
> and Base Concepts plug-ins.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Balduino.
> IBM Rational | EPF Committer
>
> "Roman Smirak" <roman.smirak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> news:f8ulqn$c6j$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Hi Per,
>>
>>   I understand completely your point about extensibility; however you 
>> distribute a library including both OpenUP + the extension (DSDM in this 
>> case) - although I'm not interested in the extension I have to deal with 
>> it; do you plan to distribute all the extensions in one library? (I'm 
>> experimenting with OpenUP because RUP library is too fat and I see same 
>> threat here.) Let me start with the simplest possible option.
>>
>> Why not keep them separated? Everyone who is interested in an extension 
>> can download it..
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roman
>>
>> "Per Kroll" <pkroll@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>> news:f8spu6$9aa$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Hi Roman,
>>>
>>> one of the key characteristics of OpenUP is that it is extensible. We 
>>> want to encourage people to just OpenUP as a starting point, and add 
>>> additional value to it.
>>>
>>> The DSDM plug-in, which contains a small subset of DSDM, not the 
>>> complete method, is an example of such a plug-in adding value to OpenUP. 
>>> We felt it was useful to make it available as an example of an 
>>> extension.
>>>
>>> We hope that there will be many other extensions down the road, some 
>>> open source, some sold, some available for free, and some only inhouse.
>>>
>>> If you write extension plug-ins, please let this community know. Also, 
>>> provide us feedback on how we can make OpenUP even more extensible...
>>>
>>> I hope this helps
>>>
>>>  /Per Kroll
>>>
>>> "Roman Smirak" <roman.smirak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>>> news:f8ckp5$2nc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>   I've noticed you have included DSDM in the latest release - do you 
>>>> plan to distribute it as a part of OpenUP? Why?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Roman
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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