[news.eclipse.technology.ejb-orm] Re: JDO fetch-groups important for RCP

["Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen@xxxxxxxxx>]

> Again, would you then mind to finally lift the curtain on how you would  
> do it
> exactly, please? If you don't, please understand that I'll continue  
> assuming
> that there is no such solution, whatever reasons you might have to claim  
> the
> opposite without proving it.

As I said - fetch the whole thing up front or fetch something via  
projection first then fully afterwards....it is not hollow objects, but it  
solves the problem.

> Ok - this is just blatently stupid low-blows against someone who tries to
> discuss
> different ways of solving things and actually suggest you to talk to the
> ejb3 spec-people.
> I don't know much of the internals of the EJB3 expert group, but I heard  
> that
> the subject of fetch-groups had already been brought up there. I don't  
> know
> about Oracle, but my guess is that it is exactly JBoss who had their  
> share in
> turning it down, probably most of all because Hibernate doesn't support  
> it, and
> seemingly without thinking further than that.
>
> Sorry, I don't mean to say you personally or JBoss are sabotaging  
> client-side
> Java on purpose, but the responsible persons at JBoss should know that  
> this is
> the consequence of their behaviour.

I can see Mike Keith just answered this and thus I'll leave at that. (your  
comments above is just continuation of what I see as continuous low-blows)

/max