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[news.eclipse.technology.ejb-orm] Re: JDO fetch-groups important for RCP, EJB3 doesn't have comparable concept

Max Rydahl Andersen schrieb:
I never said EJB3 were perfect and it was not the whole point of the  discussion.
The point was that you said EJB3 is not suitable for a specific case and I  said
I could solve it with EJB3 (albeit in a different way - but the problem is  solvable
without fetch groups).

I actually pin-pointed you to write it to the ejb3-spec committe!
If you think the problem was solvable without dynamic fetch-groups, why then should I write to the ejb3 expert group?
btw. Hibernate3 can do much of this, but noone ever asked for dynamically
fetch groups probably since all known usecases too me (including yours)
can be implemented in other ways (and I would say it would be more  efficient)
Again, would you then mind to finally lift the curtain on how you would do it exactly, please? If you don't, please understand that I'll continue assuming that there is no such solution, whatever reasons you might have to claim the opposite without proving it.
Ok - this is just blatently stupid low-blows against someone who tries to  discuss
different ways of solving things and actually suggest you to talk to the
ejb3 spec-people.
I don't know much of the internals of the EJB3 expert group, but I heard that the subject of fetch-groups had already been brought up there. I don't know about Oracle, but my guess is that it is exactly JBoss who had their share in turning it down, probably most of all because Hibernate doesn't support it, and seemingly without thinking further than that.

Sorry, I don't mean to say you personally or JBoss are sabotaging client-side Java on purpose, but the responsible persons at JBoss should know that this is the consequence of their behaviour.