[news.eclipse.technology.ecp] Re: This project is dead

[Igor Shabalov <ishabalov@xxxxxxxxxx>]

It was the conclusion to postpone the decision, based on recommendation 
to work closely with OSGi team. All on top of fear that we will put 
ourself into position of working in parallel or against OSGi with 
potential segmentation of OSGi technology. I understand this like a 
recommendation to go to OSGi. I agree there was no formal NO decision. 
But it sounds to me not very welcome.

I do not receive any minutes from that meeting, so I cannot recall exact 
list of participant in the meeting, and I cannot recall the name of 
engineer from IBM who express that concerns.

I will attend on OSGi workshop Sep 11 in San Jose. I see a lot of 
similarity between the workshop agenda and our project.  At the same 
time during past 3 month we gather some (mixed) experience trying to use 
ECP in more or less real project. I hope I will find some understanding 
what can be done to bring OSGi (or similar component-based approach) to 
the real life of server-side application developers.

Sorry for so long time of silence.

Best regards,
Igor Shabalov.

Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
> As the Technology PMC chair I'm puzzled by this statement because I 
have no record of the Technology PMC failing to give approval. In fact, 
during our PMC call today, none of us could recall rejecting this 
proposal. We're confused. Who on the PMC failed this approval?
>
>> Igor Shabalov has informed me in an email that the ECP project has 
failed PMC approval, on the grounds of causing segmentation of OSGi. 
Igor and his team aim to continue evolving their work in cooperation 
with the OSGi Alliance rather than as a separate Eclipse project.
>
> Perhaps someone is sending Eclipse-spam in our names canceling 
interesting new projects? :-)
>
> - Bjorn
Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
> As the Technology PMC chair I'm puzzled by this statement because I have 
> no record of the Technology PMC failing to give approval. In fact, 
> during our PMC call today, none of us could recall rejecting this 
> proposal. We're confused. Who on the PMC failed this approval?
>
> > Igor Shabalov has informed me in an email that the ECP project has 
> > failed PMC approval, on the grounds of causing segmentation of OSGi. 
> > Igor and his team aim to continue evolving their work in cooperation 
> > with the OSGi Alliance rather than as a separate Eclipse project.
>
> Perhaps someone is sending Eclipse-spam in our names canceling 
> interesting new projects? :-)
>
> - Bjorn