[news.eclipse.technology.cosmos] Re: [geclipse-dev] Management of Grid R

[harald.kornmayer@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Harald Kornmayer)]

Hi Mark, hi Cosmos Team, hi all 

On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:12 -0500, Mark D Weitzel wrote:
> Greetings gEclipse Team.... 
>
> I was recently working on some submissions for Eclipse Con for our
> COSMOS project.  I came across your entry
> (https://eclipsecon.greenmeetingsystems.com/submissions/view/99).   
> I noticed the bullet point about "Managing grid resources" and was
> wondering if there is potential synergy with COSMOS. 

I think we had some discussions last year already at the EclipseSummit
Europe, but I might be totally wrong... 
If there is a potential for synergies, it would be great to evaluate and
find them.   

The goal of g-Eclipse is to deliver a general platform for existing
Grids indepedent of the underlying Grid middleware. So we did not limit
ourselves to WSRF compliant Grids. Therefore our approach is a little
bit wider. But anyhow, I agree that the use of emerging standards (like
WSRF and WS-DM) can help in this context. 

> The main focus of the COSMOS project is standards based systems
> management.  Many of the constructs that we use expose themselves as
> WSDM resources.  It's been some time since I followed the grid work,
> but I thought at one point, some of the Grid work leveraged the
> WS-Resource Framework, which is a prerequisite for WSDM.  If this is
> the case, and the grid resource you create are WS-Resources, then, *in
> theory* COSMOS should be able to manage them.  If not, maybe there is
> some "low hanging fruit" that would quickly enable COSMOS to work with
> them.  

So up to now, WSRF was not in our implementation plan, but now, we
started with the prove of the middleware independence of our framework
with a second middleware (called GRIA (www.gria.org)). And this
middleware is following the WSRF guidelines/standards. So there might be
a opportunity for the collaboration in the future. 

About "low hanging fruits": Well, perhaps you had a look to the webinar
of g-Eclipse ( http://live.eclipse.org/node/354 ). There you can get the
first impression about our framework. 

Does the COSMOS project has something similar? 

> I'm just thinking out loud so please let me know your thoughts when
> you get a chance.... 

Good thought you had. Luckily, I was able to hear them over the
atlantic. Loud enough! :-)) 

So yes, let's start to evaluate what we can do together! 

I hope to have a closer look to COSMOS over the weekend!  

Harald 

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