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[news.eclipse.technology.alf] Re: Upcoming validation release review

Ali Kheirolomoom wrote:

> However there cannot be an "active tool user" community in the traditional sense until ALF implementations exist for a number of products.

This concerns me, and I think it goes to the heart of my inability to understand: Why? If ALF includes developer or client side tools in its charter, shouldn't you be able to implement them in the open source project itself, as examples? If it's strictly a server-side technology, shouldn't you be able to demonstrate an open source sample application or extension to an existing open source server (such as Tomcat) that uses the APIs/vocabulary/whatever?

I'm not able to reconcile the inability to test/demonstrate/vet the approach in an open source fashion with the idea that it covers the entire lifecycle of an application, a very rich and fertile area for tooling and user support.