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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:20:39 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Swordfish 0.9 Release Review results</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00022.html</link>
		<description>Hello all, Since there has not been a request from a member of the Eclipse community to hold this review on a conference call, there will be no Review Call tomorrow (Wednesday, Sept. 16. 2009). The EMO has declared this review to be successful based on the...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hello all,</pre><br>
<tt>Since there has not been a request from a member of the Eclipse community 
to hold this review on a conference call, there will be no Review Call 
tomorrow (Wednesday, Sept. 16. 2009).</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The EMO has declared this review to be successful based on the review 
docuware and on community feedback. Congratulations to the Swordfish team 
on their successful review.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Please contact emo@xxxxxxxxxxx with any questions. Thanks. </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:08:56 GMT</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="true">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00022.html</guid>
		<author>anne.jacko@xxxxxxx (Anne Jacko)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] SwordFish for Dynamic Dependency</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00021.html</link>
		<description>Hi I have discovered this project &amp;quot;Swordfish&amp;quot; after doing some research on internet on Dynamic Service Dependency --- after multiple internet hops from different projects. My questions are related to service dependency mapping and monitoring. - Can I use S...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi</pre><br>
<tt>I have discovered this project &quot;Swordfish&quot; after doing some research on 
internet on Dynamic Service Dependency --- after multiple internet hops 
from different projects. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>My questions are related to service dependency mapping and monitoring. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- Can I use Swordfish (Service Registry?) to query in runtime the dynamic 
dependencies between services? </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- What kind of information can I get in Runtime (Events related to usage, 
performance) from Swordfish</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- Can this information be ported out in a simple RSS/XML Feed? </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>My customers are looking at identifying dynamic dependency between various 
services in Runtime, in a large outsource environment, it is difficult to 
know what service is dependent on what other services. </tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Next, they would like to know the performance and availability of these 
services in Runtime, which I believe is out of scope for Swordfish?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><br>I am reading from the various docs, that Swordfish might require process 
orchestration (BPEL), Is that mandatory to achieve the above two use 
cases.  Quite frankly, most of the customers are not sophisticated to 
adopt BPEL and hence we would like some practical and basic tooling </tt><br>
<br>
<tt><br>regards<br>
Raj. </tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:22:16 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>rjain15@xxxxxxx (Rajesh )</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Extensible Monitoring Framework</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00020.html</link>
		<description>I read that Swordfish will have an extensible monitoring framework. I'd like to understand what events it will provide and how I can access them. Ideally I'd like to fire Swordfish up and pull events out of it to see what they look like. Is there any doc o...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>I read that Swordfish will have an extensible monitoring framework. I'd 
like to understand what events it will provide and how I can access them. 
Ideally I'd like to fire Swordfish up and pull events out of it to see 
what they look like.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Is there any doc or anything you can point me at? I've found what I think 
are the relevant event classes in the Javadoc but it's not much to go on. 
Any pointers would be appreciated.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Matty.</pre><br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:18:25 GMT</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="true">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00020.html</guid>
		<author>m.cooper@xxxxxxx (Matthew Cooper)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Swordfish 0.8 Review</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00019.html</link>
		<description>Hello all, Since there has not been a request from a member of the Eclipse community to hold this review on a conference call, there will be no Review Call tomorrow (March 18, 2009). The EMO has declared this review to be successful based on the review doc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hello all,</pre><br>
<tt>Since there has not been a request from a member of the Eclipse community 
to hold this review on a conference call, there will be no Review Call 
tomorrow (March 18, 2009).</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The EMO has declared this review to be successful based on the review 
docuware and on community feedback. Congratulations to the Swordfish team 
on their successful review.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Please contact emo@xxxxxxxxxxx with any questions. Thanks.</pre><br>
<tt>Anne Jacko<br>
emo@xxxxxxxxxxx </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:26:29 GMT</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="true">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00019.html</guid>
		<author>anne.jacko@xxxxxxx (Anne Jacko)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Re: Announcement: Developer chat switches	to IRC as of the next Sprint</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00018.html</link>
		<description>really a good news:) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>really a good news:) 



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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:01:55 GMT</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="true">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00018.html</guid>
		<author>jin.phd@xxxxxxx (jin.phd)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Announcement: Developer chat switches to	IRC as of the next Sprint</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00017.html</link>
		<description>Hi everyone, as most of you probably know we&amp;#xB9;ve been doing our daily developer chats on a Skype public chat group for the last few months which proved to be quite useful for synchronizing our efforts accross multiple locations and making our progress trans...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Hi everyone,

as most of you probably know we&#xB9;ve been doing our daily developer chats on a
Skype public chat group for the last few months which proved to be quite
useful for synchronizing our efforts accross multiple locations and making
our progress transparent to the community.

&gt;From the next spring on, i.e. starting on March 9th,  we&#xB9;ll open a new
chapter and switch to IRC. There are a number of good reasons for this:

1. Open standard: IRC is based on an internet standard protocol, Skype is
not.
2. Automation: IRC can be easily automated using bots, e.g. for
automatically sending out the daily logs.
3. Platform independence: IRC clients are available for virtually any
platform, Skype clients aren&#xB9;t.
4. General acceptance: IRC is generally the more popular choice for open
source projects.

For everyone who&#xB9;s already on IRC it&#xB9;s easy: Just point your IRC client to
irc.freenode.net:6667 and join the channel #eclipse-swordfish-dev.


For everyone who hasn&#xB9;t used IRC before, here&#xB9;s what to do:

1. Grab a decent IRC client of your choice. For Mac, I recommend Colloquy,
but your mileage may vary.

2. Connect to irc.freenode.net, port 6667, and choose a Nickname of your
liking. If the one you&#xB9;ve chosen is already taken, choose something else.

3. Once you&#xB9;re connected, register your chosen Nickname with the Nickserver.
In order to do so, issue the following command:
/msg NickServ register &lt;password&gt; &lt;your@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;

4. Check your email inbox for an registration email and follow the
instructions given herein.

5. Now you can join the channel by typing
/join #eclipse-swordfish-dev


Looking forward to seeing you all on IRC soon!

Cheers,
Oliver


--

Oliver Wolf
SOPERA GmbH


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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:19:31 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>oliver.wolf@xxxxxxx (Oliver Wolf)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Re: Demo Project and Documentation</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00016.html</link>
		<description>Hi Oliver! Thanks a lot for your answer! We are using IBM Tivoli MAXIMO Asset Management System (MAM) in Maintenance System Department to track maintenance- and energy processes for our pulp and paper plants! This year we started a project with the goal to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks a lot for your answer!</pre><br>
<tt>We are using IBM Tivoli MAXIMO Asset Management System (MAM) in 
Maintenance System Department to track maintenance- and energy processes 
for our pulp and paper plants!</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This year we started a project with the goal to focus on cost evaluation 
of all task done for maintenance and energy consumption. For this reason 
we have to connect our ERP System with MAM-System to get cost-information.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The plan is to start with an easy:-), so called, &quot;Universal Importer 
Tool&quot;, trying to Extract-Transform-Load data from ERP (with ServiceMix 
3.x/4.0). We also have legacy software-systems which should be 
integrated too - so I already tried a lot of SCA programming...</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>However, I am deply comitted to open source, especially OSGi:-))! So I 
want to build up this UI-Tool with OSGi-based components.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Got in touch with Swordfish last year when the project proposal sounds 
really interesting!!!!</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Up to now it's not really clear to me how to combine SCA-bundles, 
JBI(ServiceMix)- bundles,...  to bring it to work.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>First plan: Read data from ERP system (SCA-component) bring it into 
ServiceMix, transform data into XML and import this XML file into our 
MAM system.<br>
(Just for fun - learn all the features of Swordfish)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>It would be very helpfull to get some examples (or guidance)! For my 
first plan;-)...</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks a lot
Cheers, Chris</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
<tt>Oliver Wolf schrieb:
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Chris,</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">there definitely will be a Demo along with our Release 1.0 which is somewhat
delayed because of some IP issues that had to be resolved first. For the
time being, I can offer to provide you some guidance. Would you like to
share with me what you intend to use Swordfish for? Are you just interested
and need a general overview or are you looking for a solution for a specific
problem or task?</pre><br>
<tt>Cheers,<br>
Oliver<br>
 </tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>Am 09.02.09 19:55 schrieb &quot;Chrisian Voller&quot; unter &lt;swordfish@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt; in
gmpu7p$hkt$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:</pre><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">I am really interested in testing swordfish and all the features!
However, it's a little bit difficult and time-consuming to find out
(all) possibilities on my own ;-)!! Is there already any Demo or Docu
available gettin deeper into all this interessting stuff!!!</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks a lot
Chris
</pre></blockquote><br>
</blockquote><br>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:32:25 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>swordfish@xxxxxxx (Chrisian Voller)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Re: Demo Project and Documentation</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00015.html</link>
		<description> I'm interested in a general overview what is possible until now and how until now I hadn't that much time to explore it ;) greetz </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>
&gt; ... Are you just interested
&gt; and need a general overview or are you looking for a solution for a specific
&gt; problem or task?

I'm interested in a general overview what is possible until now and how
:) Well, I know that one can download a first development release but
until now I hadn't that much time to explore it ;)

greetz

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:25:01 GMT</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="true">http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00015.html</guid>
		<author>janreimone@xxxxxxx (Jan Reimann)</author>
	</item>


	<item>
		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Re: Demo Project and Documentation</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00014.html</link>
		<description>Hi Chris, there definitely will be a Demo along with our Release 1.0 which is somewhat delayed because of some IP issues that had to be resolved first. For the time being, I can offer to provide you some guidance. Would you like to share with me what you i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre>Hi Chris,

there definitely will be a Demo along with our Release 1.0 which is somewhat
delayed because of some IP issues that had to be resolved first. For the
time being, I can offer to provide you some guidance. Would you like to
share with me what you intend to use Swordfish for? Are you just interested
and need a general overview or are you looking for a solution for a specific
problem or task?

Cheers,
Oliver
 


Am 09.02.09 19:55 schrieb &quot;Chrisian Voller&quot; unter &lt;swordfish@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt; in
gmpu7p$hkt$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

&gt; Hi Oliver!
&gt; 
&gt; I am really interested in testing swordfish and all the features!
&gt; However, it's a little bit difficult and time-consuming to find out
&gt; (all) possibilities on my own ;-)!! Is there already any Demo or Docu
&gt; available gettin deeper into all this interessting stuff!!!
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks a lot
&gt; Chris


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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:39:39 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>oliver.wolf@xxxxxxx (Oliver Wolf)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.swordfish] Demo Project and Documentation</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.swordfish/msg00013.html</link>
		<description>Hi Oliver! I am really interested in testing swordfish and all the features! However, it's a little bit difficult and time-consuming to find out (all) possibilities on my own ;-)!! Is there already any Demo or Docu available gettin deeper into all this int...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Oliver!</pre><br>
<tt>I am really interested in testing swordfish and all the features! 
However, it's a little bit difficult and time-consuming to find out 
(all) possibilities on my own ;-)!! Is there already any Demo or Docu 
available gettin deeper into all this interessting stuff!!!</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Thanks a lot
Chris</pre><br>
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