[news.eclipse.platform.swt] Re: SWT/eclipse closer to native mac apps

["Grant Gayed" <grant_gayed@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Laurent,

Firstly, thanks for your efforts!  I would suggest concentrating on making
them work in swt's in-progress Cocoa port (see
http://www.eclipse.org/swt/cocoaport.php ).  It's too late for changes like
this to go in for 3.4, and the hope is that by 3.5 the Cocoa port will
become the real one.

The best way to submit changes is with patches attached to bug reports.
It's difficult to prescribe an exact shape for the changes to take because
any change that has the potential to affect api (eg.- do all tool items
automatically go up there or only client-specified ones?) is not taken
lightly.  It's not likely that a change of this size would be merged as-is
anyways, but if 90% of it is then a huge effort has been saved on this end.
The biggest contribution is seeing the new OS calls working; massaging the
code shape afterwards is straightforward.

Regarding future changes like this, I would suggest first logging bug
reports with SWT, setting the OS to "Mac OSX - Cocoa", and putting some
words like "I can investigate this, would this feature be desirable?".  I
suggest this just because I would not want work to be done that never had a
chance of going in.  Decisions regarding enhancements like this are often
made by multiple people, so I don't want to unilaterally state here what
would or wouldn't be taken.

Grant


"Laurent Mihalkovic" <ljp_m@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi Tom,
>
> Yes, I am interested in getting the code pushed inside eclipse, rather
> than maintain my own side pet project. I saw that last month someone had
> opened a bug for the very same problem. If people from the SWT group
> define more specifically how they want things. I will morph my code into
> it to increase the chances of acceptance.
>
> If you look at this bug report, I attached a screenshot of my workbench:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222859
> It is running with a 'Mac OS Presentation'. Is there a chance that
> something like that would make it to the workbench distribution? Should
> I open a bug for that ? (even if the presentation has no interest for
> the eclipse team, it requires a tiny change to one class in the
> workbench in order to work).
>
> cheers,
> lm/
>
>
>
> Tom Schindl wrote:
> > Hi Laurent,
> >
> > The way to go is to submit a bug against Platform/SWT or Platform/UI
> > and attach the code. This assumes that you want to make it opensource
> > under EPL.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Laurent Mihalkovic schrieb:
> >> last sunday I started looking into getting SWT apps to feel more like
> >> native Mac OS apps. In the first version, I extended SWT with some
> >> quickly hacked JNA code as a proof of concept of supporting native
> >> Mac OS Toolbars. as it did work, I rewrote the code with native SWT
> >> changes (the many additions to OS.java were trivial thanks to JNIgen).
> >>
> >> At the moment I am working on supporting split views (I want to move
> >> the perspective switcher to the Mac toolbar, as a square looking
> >> split view). as I was there, I wrote a simple custom presentation
> >> that makes eclipse look a lot closer to a native mac app. For that
> >> one, I have had to make a tiny change to workench ui. how do I go
> >> about getting some of this integrated into SWT and workbench?
> >>
> >> very best.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> -- 
> Laurent Mihalkovic, co-author SWT/JFace in Action
(www.manning.com/scarpino)
>