[news.eclipse.platform.swt] Re: Screen patches, still occuring?

["Robert B" <oh1226@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

You are quite wrong!

I am not just for complaining. I have to say I am nagging!
I myself spent huge amount of time promoting SWT
in the past, although I didn't practiced much. I still have 
once-SWT-enthusiasts
in my mailing list in hundreds! I filed many reports in the past. So I am 
well
connected to the community. I know the problems and issues very well.
So I am trying to address the core issues. You can consider me in part, as
a lobbist, representing them.  I am not here to upset you guys or discredit.
I am trying to convince you guys to have higher priority in fixing this 
problem.
That's why I even volunteered for testing.

Recently, I have converted three programs. Only a very simple one
has no problem! If this doen't get fixed, my only remaining option is to
move away from Java, abandoning huge amounts codes. Basically,
I have to rewrite them from scratch in C++. As a final act, I
have to NAG a bit more before I can give up finally.

Take this as an example case, make swt great, not a reason to leave.

Isn't it still good enough?

R.



"Tom Schindl" <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:fsva3f$j63$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi Robert,
>
> Sorry if the next few sentences sound rude but I have to say this:
>
> I only see you complaining that this is not right and that is not correct, 
> spreading the world that one can't use SWT to write sophisticated 
> applications, SWT can't be used for commerical applications, ... . You 
> don't attach your information to bugs we mention you are only complaining, 
> complaining, ... . I'm tired of this and my time is invested better to 
> really help people who do their homework.
>
> I'm not sure if you use the same bugzilla-id as you do for your mailing to 
> the newsgroup but if that's true:
> - you have filed 0 bugs
> - you have CC'ed yourself to 0 bugs
> - you have commented on 0 bugs
>
> I've used this query: 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailreporter1=1&emailcc1=1&emaillongdesc1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=oh1226%40hotmail.com&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
>
> Instead of investing your energy in complaining I'd suggest to sit down 
> and provide a snippet (it has to be as complex as it has to be to show the 
> problem so snippet might not be the right term) to reproduce or even 
> better dive into the source and produce a patch to fix the bug!
>
> If it's really pointless to write SWT-Applications then I'd suggest you 
> search for another technology maybe Swing or QT-Jambi are better suited 
> for you.
>
> In the end I'd like to state the following: There are many people around 
> here who try to provide a great framework to you to do your business 
> (whether they are payed by a company for it - many employees even invest 
> some of their sparetime - or doing the work in their sparetime). They all 
> care about Eclipse. It is by the way not the responsibility of the 
> Foundation to define which bug has to be fixed when this is the 
> responsibility of the project teams.
>
> Tom
>
> Robert B schrieb:
>> This problem exists for years and I wonder whether this will be
>> fixed at all. It works ok only for snippets and simple ui programs.
>> With this problem remaining, it's pointless to develop s/w
>> using SWT, JFace, RCP, etc., at all.
>>
>> I am not sure how much Eclipse foundation is committed to
>> resolve this issue as soon as possible? One thing I can say
>> is that with this remaining, it cannot be used broadly,
>> other than writting simple ui programs.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Tom Schindl                                          JFace-Committer
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