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[news.eclipse.newcomer] Ganymede & website usability for Linux users (was Re: Ganymede fails after update)
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- From: Nick Boldt <codeslave@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:41:11 -0400
- Newsgroups: eclipse.newcomer
- Organization: EclipseCorner
- User-agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071113)
> The problem is that gcj is the default on many systems, and while the
> packaged version of eclipse works with it plugins often don't - nor does
> a downloaded version.
Yes, and this is documented in many (but perhaps not enough) places. For
example,
http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
http://wiki.eclipse.org/SDK_Known_Issues#Linux_issues
But it's not on the actual platform download or EPP download pages.
http://bugs.eclipse.org/239883
http://bugs.eclipse.org/239884
> The non-free flash plugin has been pretty easy to install for a while -
> besides people really know what it does and why they want it - whereas
> someone trying out eclipse often won't know if it's the right thing for
> them
OK, what about the non-free Sun JVM plugin, also for your browser? If
that too is easy to install, then why not the Sun JVM/JRE/JDK for use
with Eclipse?
> I find the Eclipse website to be quite inward looking
> take this page for example http://www.eclipse.org/projects/whatsnew.php
> Two clicks from the home page - I can't see any other what's new section
> - I expect it to be a list of new features from the new release .... but
> it's about Development Process Changes ...
> The content for what's new exists (it's in the eclipse help) but much of
> it is really hard to find online.
> All those great screenshots - only available to people who have already
> 'bought into' Eclipse.
Yeah, you probably want something like this:
http://www.eclipse.org/ ->
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ -> "Eclipse Classic 3.4 > Release
notes" ->
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.4-200806172000/whatsnew3.4/eclipse-news.html
But for individual projects... uh...
hmm. http://www.eclipse.org/ganymede/learn.php doesn't link to New and
Noteworthy...
Crap. Time for another bug report...
http://bugs.eclipse.org/239889
> I spent a year using Windows recently - Cygwin is the only way I
> survived ;-)
I hear ya: http://divby0.blogspot.com/search/label/windows
Nick