[news.eclipse.newcomer] Re: Newcomer first impression: Piece of Crap

[melser.anton@xxxxxxxxx (Antoine)]

Dave Dyer wrote:


> This was my third or fourth attempt to grok eclipse, and every time, my
> first impression has been "what a piece of crap".  Eclipse is monumentally
> unfriendly to experienced have users with complex projects to import.

And what about noobs to java development? No better... I stuck around 
netbeans for a long while before (today) giving it the flick for once and 
for all. It is a *lot* friendlier for the absolute beginner but has lots 
of annoying things too. And eclipse seems to run fine on my 256meg ram 
machine at work - netbeans will barely open with that. So I am defintely 
happy about being here.
Cheers
Antoine
ps. when is someone going to get real and put some stuff for noobs on the 
welcome page? With all the big guns I would have thought a webbie for a 
few days wouldn't break the bank and he/she could make something to 
attract an even larger following than now...