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[news.eclipse.modeling.gmt.modisco] Re: web, cms, reverse engineering & modisco

Hi Jean-Marie,

Concerning your KM3 questions/infos, you should post on GMT newsgroup (news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.modeling.gmt).

As KM3 is part of the GMT/AM3 component, please prefix the subject of your KM3-related posts with [AM3] or [AM3-KM3].

There is no AM3 specific newsgroup, because Eclipse Foundation does not encourage component groups, they tolerate them when the project group gets too much traffic. Modisco newsgroup was created before we knew this "restriction".

For the moment, all the KM3-specific documentation is centralized in KM3 wiki page (http://wiki.eclipse.org/KM3). We will add KM3 links in GMT/AM3 website asap.

KM3 metamodels zoo is reachable at: http://www.eclipse.org/gmt/am3/zoos/atlanticZoo/

Contribution details to the KM3 zoo could be found here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/KM3/How_to_Contribute_to_Atlantic_Zoo

Regards,
Freddy.

Jean-Marie Favre a écrit :
Jean.Bezivin wrote:
Jean-Marie,

The subject of building "WEBware" to "MODELware" injectors
is of tremendous interest.
Agreed. WEBware is a technological nightware with hundreds
of ad-hoc DSLs and languages that have been not engineered,
that evolve all the time, and interestingly there is a huge amount
of useful data available on the web. All the conditions are
met for a metamodel reverse engineer like me to have a lot of fun ;-)
Difficult, yet interesting, motivating, and useful!

for several years in the area of Web mining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_mining).
yes, I know, but our plan is to work more on rather structured webware
that raw textual mining which is closer to information retrieval.
The structured webware is still very useful and direcly inline
with what MDE can provide currently. Hence our focus on CMS and
other structured sources.

Which kind of CMS are you going to consider for your case studies?
Eugenio Scalise, who is the PhD working on that will post the
list here. We are also planning to post the metamodels in the
zoooooooooooooooo. They will be also available on
http://planet-mde.org  which is based BTW on joomla.
For a list of CMS see cmsmatrix.org ;-)
Currently I'm working on the metamodels of various social network
systems.

BTW where should I post questions/info about km3, the zoo, etc?
I would bet on am3 but I can't see a newsgroup for that. Did I missed
something? Also, to find information about km3 on the current website,
one should really search! I know that this is not the most important
tool in the GMT suite, but it is quite convenient for teaching and
sometimes for programming (depends on people). Just let me know
where I should continue this discussion.

We are currently considering studying the open source Alfresco Enterprise Content Management System (http://www.alfresco.com/) with model engineering technology. Have you looked at this solution?
No, I'm happy with joomla though it is php based :-( First of all
it has thousands of components. It wins various times CMS prize.
I hate php (better said untyped language), but all in all since
I'm working on code generation I don't mind too much generating
this awfull untyped language rather than java or whatever
(I don't like java either, but now that I discovered Tom, I may
change my mind a little bit).
Most importantly the benefit of php/mysql is that all commercial
hosting services provide these solutions (java is not so easy).