[News.eclipse.foundation] Re: [EDP] What is motivating this revision?

["Dave" <dave.bernstein@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On the topic of why reviews are poorly attended, data gathered from members 
would not be for me to like or dislike; it would aid me and others in both 
assessing the proposed revision and suggesting constructive additions. 
During the creation of the Eclipse governance model and development process, 
critique and contribution from the membership was continuous; in the spirit 
of openness and transparency, all of this information was available to 
everyone in summary form.

I accept your characterization of the Architecture Council's lack of 
effectiveness, and I believe that you believe the Strategic Developers 
cannot be convinced to appropriate staff this Council. I simply disagree 
with your belief. What concerns me the most is solving this problem by 
defining it away: if the development process is sufficiently weakened, then 
the Architectural Council's current contribution can be deemed satisfactory.

     Dave


"Bjorn Freeman-Benson" <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:eidf56$29h$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dave wrote:
>> Without such a summary, productive discourse on this item is impossible.
>
> You are invited to contact a different subset of the membership to gather 
> your own data - I fear that no matter what I provide, you will not like 
> it - far better that you gather your own summary and provide conclusions 
> from there.
>
>> Frankly, I find it difficult to believe that the Strategic
>> Developers cannot be convinced to appropriately staff this Council.
>
> Again, I suggest you gather your own data about the staffing and the 
> Council. I have explained my understanding of the situation and you have 
> explained that you (effectively) don't believe me. There isn't anything I 
> can offer you to convince you, thus you will have to find the data you 
> seek elsewhere. At the risk of being repetitive, I suggest you gather your 
> own data from the Board and the Strategic Members.
>
> - Bjorn