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[News.eclipse.foundation] Re: Call for discussion: "User experience" project

Although I received a couple of private emails on this, I'm a little disappointed by the lack of responses here in the newsgroup. Should I take this to mean that most users and committers are happy with the status quo, or that everybody just overwhelmed with getting 3.2 and Callisto out and can't think about the future right now?

Ed Burnette wrote:
For some time now the focus of the Eclipse project as a whole has been to provide a great platform for Eclipse members to build their own software on top of Eclipse. For example, look at the top of the Callisto page (www.eclipse.org/callisto), which says:

"We are doing this simultaneous release to support the needs of the ecosystem members who integrate Eclipse frameworks into their own software and products. ... Those product producers naturally accept the ultimate responsibility for their customers' experiences"

There has been a lot of talk in the blogosphere about "tools vs. platform" which I won't repeat here. But I believe that more attention needs to be paid to Eclipse tools and Eclipse users. I think there should be a concerted effort to improve the user experience, for example to:

- improve the Eclipse out-of-box experience
- create small native installers with commonly used functionality
- create automatic updates that work and that everybody uses
- provide a one-click way to install plug-ins from the web
- provide wizards to help people migrating from other systems
- be a more effective competitor

This has been proposed before. The main arguments against it were:

- "The role of the Foundation itself is not to do the actual work". A project sponsored/funded by member companies and individuals would eliminate that objection.

- "Creating distros is a commercial opportunity and the open source projects should not be doing anything which interferes with that". There hasn't exactly been a groundswell of commercial distros (in the sense of repackagers) growing up around Eclipse. Commercial distros can still add value, for example through third party plug-ins and support.

Thoughts? Sponsors? Job offers? :)

[Note to Bjorn: this isn't a 'Declaration'. Maybe a pre-Declaration, or Trial Balloon. ;)]

--Ed Burnette
Author, Eclipse IDE Pocket Guide, Eclipse in Action
Web: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette
All views expressed are my own, etc., etc.