[News.eclipse.foundation] Re: [NEWSGROUP] - please open access to newsgr

[ilias <ilias@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

WebMaster wrote:
> As discussed in the bugzilla issue:
>
> Please note the bugzilla issue is closed, 


If the issue is closed, why should anyone discuss about the issue?

I've reopened the issue - simply because it _is_ an open issue.

> and any further discussion should be done here.

[discussing the issue on this media is my personal decision, which was 
in no way influenced by the plea above.]

I will make the further discussion within this group (and post only a 
summary-comment to the issue), to enable the final evaluation and decision.

> The eclipse website provides several forum archives [mailinglists, 
> newsgroups].
>
> It is a common practice within open-source projects, to have those 
> archives open
> to the public (without the need of a registration).
>
> This simplifies referencing, collaboration, archival within 
> search-engines [thus
> content appears as search reslut e.g. within google] etc.
>
> Please remove the read-access password-protection to the archives and
> html-nntp-forums (which serve as an archive, too) on eclipse.org.

GOALS:
- Simplify Referencing
- Simplify Cross Foundation Collaboration
- Enable archival within search engines etc. (e.g. google)
  - current eclipse users can search additionally within google
  - newcomers can hit on eclipse due to a technical google-search
- Open Source - Open Resource

I think that goals are worthfull.

COUNTERS:

> ------- Additional Comment #1 From Eclipse Webmaster 2004-11-26 12:29 
>
> The reason behind the password protection is to prevent spambots from 
> retrieving the e-mail address of the poster.
[...]

=> { read-password prevents emails from spambot-retrieval }

valid.

> ------- Additional Comment #2 From Konrad Kolosowski 2004-11-26 12:59 
> -------
>
> I agree with the web master.  I have used my real e-mail address, under
> assumption the groups are password protected.

=> { read-password prevents emails from spambot-retrieval }

valid.

=> { existing password protection was reason to use real email }

valid.

> We cannot change the rules down the road.  

=> { [critical] rules cannot be changed down the road }

valid.

> Otherwise I would request all my post to be deleted.

=> { requesting own posts to be deleted }

valid [the _request_ itself]

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[...] - (wontfix/reopen comments)

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The simple conclusion is:

To achieve the above mentioned GOALS, an email protection mechanism must 
be provided, which does not rely on an read-access-limitation.

Something like this one:

http://www.mail-archive.com/announcements@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg00267.html

It is important, that the eclipse foundation reaches the openness of 
other major open-source projects.

.

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