[News.eclipse.foundation] Re: [PRIVACY] - Treatment of Privacy Policy Co

[ilias <ilias@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:15:18 -0400, Rich Main <rich.main@xxxxxxx> wrote:
[moved down into context by ilias]
> "ilias" <ilias@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:opsfsivlmwrp2aut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > I have posted an privacy policy complaint on newsgroup "eclipse.platform"
> on 2004-09-27.
> > [ECLIPSE.ORG] - Privacy Policy Violation
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=29852&group=eclipse.platform
> >
> > Although i've additionally notified the webmaster (2004-10-02) and the
> > eclipse direction (2004-10-06), i did not get any response to this.
> >
> > Additionally, no correction happend (privacy-policy change notification on
> > eclipse.org home page).
>
> Ilias -
>
> I understand your concerns.  However, I do think that appropriate notice of
> the legal documentation updates was posted on http://www.eclipse.org at the
> time that the changes were originally made.  See the September 8, 2004 entry
> under the "What's New" banner.

"September 8 - The Eclipse Foundation has begun the process of transitioning from the CPL to the EPL. Read the many new and updated documents associated with the relicensing plan."
source: http://www.eclipse.org [What's New section]

> Was this notice insufficient for some reason?

This notice has no relevance to my privacy case:

The notice refers to:

"September 8"
"CPL to EPL" / "relicensing plan"
"updated documents"

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my complaint refers to:

"September 10"
"Privacy Statement"
"change notification"

"
Notification of Changes

This privacy statement was last updated on September 10, 2004. A notice
will be posted on this Web site home page for thirty (30) days whenever
this privacy statement is changed.
"
source: http://www.eclipse.org/legal/privacy.html

> > Several issues within eclipse foundation annoy me.
> >
> > But this here makes me angry.

Although angry, I've expressed myself carefully:

"Possible Violation:
Missing privacy statement change notification on http://eclipse.org";
source: http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=29852&group=eclipse.platform

> > I am oversensitive to issues affecting my personal freedom.

After 2 weeks of seeing eclipse.org essentially ignoring this case, I start to loose my patience.

> > Eclipse Foundation should ensure that such issues (affecting a persons
> > freedom and rights) are processed with a highest priority.

It becomes more and more _unbelievable_ to me, how the Eclipse Foundation treats my complaint.

We are talking here about the Eclipse Foundation, with members like...

*IBM*, *HP*, *Intel*, *Ericson*, *SAP*, *QNX*,  ...!

Personally to me, the behaviour of the Foundation reflects directly to its members.

I really don't believe all this!

> > I am still awaiting a comment on this.

Still no comment from the _responsible_ persons!

This is _inacceptable_ !

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I expect at _minimum_ the following information:

- when : [covered: 2004-09-10]
- who  : has made the change.
- why  : (rationales/justifications for changing the privacy policy)
- what : a clearly visible difference-report of the document

An example for a clear difference-report from netbeans [related to licensing]:

http://www.netbeans.org/about/legal/mpl-spl-ldiff.html

.

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