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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] TouchFaces iPhone JSF framework announced</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00013.html</link>
		<description>Blinki has a strong interest in developments in the mobile ui framework and mobile app framework areas. The TouchFaces framework was announced today. See the following link for a screencast of this framework for JSF iPhone development. http://cagataycivici...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Blinki has a strong interest in developments in the mobile ui framework and 
mobile app framework areas.  The TouchFaces framework was announced today. 
See the following link for a screencast of this framework for JSF iPhone 
development.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt><a  href="http://cagataycivici.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/iphone-app-development-with-jsf/">http://cagataycivici.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/iphone-app-development-with-jsf/</a> </tt><br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:24:10 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Parrott)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00012.html</link>
		<description>It still makes it sound a little caught between WTP and Mobile, but Pulsar may over time cover some of that if it keeps advancing I'd guess Werner </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>It still makes it sound a little caught between WTP and Mobile, but Pulsar 
may over time cover some of that if it keeps advancing I'd guess</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Werner </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:41:06 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00011.html</link>
		<description>&amp;quot;Werner Keil&amp;quot; &amp;lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxx&amp;gt; wrote in message news:h7toak$7nb$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx One aspect of the blinki project is to develop mobile web tool frameworks. Thus a WebKit rendering capability provides a good core technology upon which to develop ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt><br>&quot;Werner Keil&quot; &lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxx&gt; wrote in message 
<a  href="news:h7toak$7nb$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">news:h7toak$7nb$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>If the Browser simply supports WebKit, then I also see little context with 
mobile technologies so far.<br>
Unless of course it is meant primarily to run on Mobile devices ??</tt><br>
<br>
</blockquote><tt><br>One aspect of the blinki project is to develop mobile web tool frameworks. 
Thus a WebKit rendering capability provides a good core technology upon 
which to develop an &quot;initial&quot; implementation. We are not developing a mobile 
browser to run on any device but rather providing basic core rendering 
facilities to embed with in Eclipse-based tools. I talked a little about 
this in the project proposal.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:50:02 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00010.html</link>
		<description>If the Browser simply supports WebKit, then I also see little context with mobile technologies so far. Unless of course it is meant primarily to run on Mobile devices ?? I'll speak to Mike and the ME special interest group at JCP EC about this kind of stuf...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>If the Browser simply supports WebKit, then I also see little context with 
mobile technologies so far.<br>
Unless of course it is meant primarily to run on Mobile devices ??</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'll speak to Mike and the ME special interest group at JCP EC about this 
kind of stuff next week. I told them about the project when it was created, 
and whether or not there are other projects like RT to profit from this I'd 
also be happy to discuss at ESE.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Are any of you coming there? </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:16:00 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00009.html</link>
		<description>What except the iPhone native browsers (which you may certainly emulate, but there are other solutions in and outside Eclipse) are you targeting then? It seems pretty limiting to the potential user base, but so do a number of other mobile initiatives at th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>What except the iPhone native browsers (which you may certainly emulate, but 
there are other solutions in and outside Eclipse) are you targeting then?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>It seems pretty limiting to the potential user base, but so do a number of 
other mobile initiatives at the moment, too ;-)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>W. </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:07:55 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00008.html</link>
		<description>Our current thoughts are to limit our webkit development to support widget and framework development and testing. Vodafone's approach is on our radar as are a number of other mobile framework initiatives. W &amp;quot;Werner Keil&amp;quot; &amp;lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxxt; wrote in mes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Our current thoughts are to limit our webkit development to support widget 
and framework development and testing.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Vodafone's approach is on our radar as are a number of other mobile 
framework initiatives.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">W</pre><br>
<tt>&quot;Werner Keil&quot; &lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxx&gt; wrote in message 
<a  href="news:h7k4r9$utc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">news:h7k4r9$utc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Wayne,</pre><br>
<tt>Thanks for the update. At least the WebKit4SWT browser I also noticed.<br>
So is that primarily an emulator for Widgets and WebApps or should it run 
also on actual devices?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>If you haven't come across the Vodafone approach (actually they have at 
least 2, and for some areas JME still seems high on their agenda ;-)<br>
I hope, this may also help your research.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Werner</pre><br>
<tt>&quot;Genuitec&quot; &lt;employment@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
<a  href="news:h7jf73$16u$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">news:h7jf73$16u$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Following is a msg I posted to the blinki maillist last week. Since not 
everyone follows that list I'm reposting it here.<br>
---------------------<br>
Hi All,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'm excited to finally be able to put some energy into the Blinki 
project. I realize the project has been idle for quite sometime. That is 
behind us now and we are moving forward. Before sharing a couple of 
details about upcoming Blinki activities I would like to reflect for a 
moment on the growing interest in mobile web and in general the rapid 
recognition of the role HTML5 and the smartphone browser are playing in 
changing mobile use patterns. A few cool major developments include:</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- Google announcing that mobile web is at the heart of its mobile 
strategy<br>
- adoption of the WebKit engine continues to grow as more and more 
smartphones in the dev pipeline are announcing plans to ship with it<br>
- growing disillusionment with the AppStore; Google claims the AppStores 
are temporary (Do you agree?)</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Ok enough reflection. So what's up with Blinki you may ask?</pre><br>
<tt>The first bit of news is we are preparing to OSS our WebKit4SWT codebase 
next week. We had hoped to do this well before now but had a couple of 
murphy's law incidences that have held us up.  While I have worked with 
and followed Eclipse closely since its initial OSS, I have not been 
through the IP process. So this will be a learning process for the team 
and me. I'll post more details as we get that codebase ready for the IP 
process.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The second development is mobile web framework research that Greg Amerson 
and I are conducting. So far we have been working with PhoneGap to get 
1st hand knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses. We plan to look at 
several other similar frameworks as background research for Blinki. We 
will be sharing our findings as they become available. If you have 
experience with any of the PhoneGap-like frameworks we welcome you input.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>_______________________________________________
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blinki-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
<a  href="https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev">https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev</a></pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00007.html</link>
		<description>Hi Wayne, Thanks for the update. At least the WebKit4SWT browser I also noticed. So is that primarily an emulator for Widgets and WebApps or should it run also on actual devices? If you haven't come across the Vodafone approach (actually they have at least...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Wayne,</pre><br>
<tt>Thanks for the update. At least the WebKit4SWT browser I also noticed.<br>
So is that primarily an emulator for Widgets and WebApps or should it run 
also on actual devices?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>If you haven't come across the Vodafone approach (actually they have at 
least 2, and for some areas JME still seems high on their agenda ;-)<br>
I hope, this may also help your research.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Werner</pre><br>
<tt>&quot;Genuitec&quot; &lt;employment@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt; schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
<a  href="news:h7jf73$16u$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">news:h7jf73$16u$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><tt>Following is a msg I posted to the blinki maillist last week. Since not 
everyone follows that list I'm reposting it here.<br>
---------------------<br>
Hi All,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'm excited to finally be able to put some energy into the Blinki project. 
I realize the project has been idle for quite sometime. That is behind us 
now and we are moving forward. Before sharing a couple of details about 
upcoming Blinki activities I would like to reflect for a moment on the 
growing interest in mobile web and in general the rapid recognition of the 
role HTML5 and the smartphone browser are playing in changing mobile use 
patterns. A few cool major developments include:</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- Google announcing that mobile web is at the heart of its mobile strategy<br>
- adoption of the WebKit engine continues to grow as more and more 
smartphones in the dev pipeline are announcing plans to ship with it<br>
- growing disillusionment with the AppStore; Google claims the AppStores 
are temporary (Do you agree?)</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Ok enough reflection. So what's up with Blinki you may ask?</pre><br>
<tt>The first bit of news is we are preparing to OSS our WebKit4SWT codebase 
next week. We had hoped to do this well before now but had a couple of 
murphy's law incidences that have held us up.  While I have worked with 
and followed Eclipse closely since its initial OSS, I have not been 
through the IP process. So this will be a learning process for the team 
and me. I'll post more details as we get that codebase ready for the IP 
process.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The second development is mobile web framework research that Greg Amerson 
and I are conducting. So far we have been working with PhoneGap to get 1st 
hand knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses. We plan to look at several 
other similar frameworks as background research for Blinki. We will be 
sharing our findings as they become available. If you have experience with 
any of the PhoneGap-like frameworks we welcome you input.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>_______________________________________________
blinki-dev mailing list
blinki-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
<a  href="https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev">https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev</a></pre><br>
</blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:48:20 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>werner.keil@xxxxxxx (Werner Keil)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: eclipse.blinki and Mobile Widgets</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00006.html</link>
		<description>Hi Werner, I wish I could have 2-3 month vacation. I reposted a msg I sent to the blinki mail list last week to this group as a new topic. Wayne &amp;quot;Werner Keil&amp;quot; &amp;lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxx&amp;gt; wrote in message news:h7heui$rpj$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">Hi Werner,</pre><br>
<tt>I wish I could have 2-3 month vacation.  I reposted a msg I sent to the 
blinki mail list last week to this group as a new topic.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<tt><br>&quot;Werner Keil&quot; &lt;werner.keil@xxxxxxx&gt; wrote in message 
<a  href="news:h7heui$rpj$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx">news:h7heui$rpj$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
</tt><blockquote style="border-left: #5555EE solid 0.2em; margin: 0em; padding-left: 0.85em"><pre style="margin: 0em;">It looks a bit like Blinki's more or less dead or inactive.
3 new messages, the last one end of June.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Well maybe everybody went on a 2-3 month vacation ?;-)</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Here's something I came across during a Dublin conference last week:
<a  href="http://widget.vodafone.com/dev/">http://widget.vodafone.com/dev/</a></pre><br>
<tt>It looks like a rather good match to what this project said it wanted to 
archive.<br>
No native apps of any kind, more WebApps or &quot;Widgets&quot; as those are also 
just a combination or HTML, XML with CSS, JavaScript and a couple of other 
(W3C) standards.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Furthermore, Vodafone got support for a whole lot of S60 based devices 
already, but doesn't outrule iPhone support for those in future. Blinki at 
least proposed to target the iPhone first, so the 2 ideas seem to 
complement each other. Plus Vodafone wishes to get this more standardized 
than they already see it, and at least with JavaME (and I believe also 
parts of Eclipse Mobile/Embedded) they are also involved in standard 
organizations like the JCP.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This could be a (Red) ray of light to get Blinki start blinking its 
lifeline ?!;-)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Good Luck,<br>
Werner 
</tt></blockquote><pre style="margin: 0em;"><br></pre><br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:40:43 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>employment@xxxxxxx (Genuitec)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] 1st steps - touch'n base</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00005.html</link>
		<description>Following is a msg I posted to the blinki maillist last week. Since not everyone follows that list I'm reposting it here. --------------------- Hi All, I'm excited to finally be able to put some energy into the Blinki project. I realize the project has bee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<tt>Following is a msg I posted to the blinki maillist last week. Since not 
everyone follows that list I'm reposting it here.<br>
---------------------<br>
Hi All,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I'm excited to finally be able to put some energy into the Blinki project. I 
realize the project has been idle for quite sometime. That is behind us now 
and we are moving forward. Before sharing a couple of details about upcoming 
Blinki activities I would like to reflect for a moment on the growing 
interest in mobile web and in general the rapid recognition of the role 
HTML5 and the smartphone browser are playing in changing mobile use 
patterns. A few cool major developments include:</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>- Google announcing that mobile web is at the heart of its mobile strategy<br>
- adoption of the WebKit engine continues to grow as more and more 
smartphones in the dev pipeline are announcing plans to ship with it<br>
- growing disillusionment with the AppStore; Google claims the AppStores are 
temporary (Do you agree?)</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Ok enough reflection. So what's up with Blinki you may ask?</pre><br>
<tt>The first bit of news is we are preparing to OSS our WebKit4SWT codebase 
next week. We had hoped to do this well before now but had a couple of 
murphy's law incidences that have held us up.  While I have worked with and 
followed Eclipse closely since its initial OSS, I have not been through the 
IP process. So this will be a learning process for the team and me. I'll 
post more details as we get that codebase ready for the IP process.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The second development is mobile web framework research that Greg Amerson 
and I are conducting. So far we have been working with PhoneGap to get 1st 
hand knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses. We plan to look at several 
other similar frameworks as background research for Blinki. We will be 
sharing our findings as they become available. If you have experience with 
any of the PhoneGap-like frameworks we welcome you input.</tt><br>
<br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Wayne</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;"><br>_______________________________________________
blinki-dev mailing list
blinki-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
<a  href="https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev">https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/blinki-dev</a></pre><br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:38:29 GMT</pubDate>
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		<author>employment@xxxxxxx (Genuitec)</author>
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		<title>[news.eclipse.blinki] Re: eclipse.blinki and Mobile Widgets</title>
		<link>http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/newsLists/news.eclipse.blinki/msg00004.html</link>
		<description>It looks a bit like Blinki's more or less dead or inactive. 3 new messages, the last one end of June. Well maybe everybody went on a 2-3 month vacation ?;-) Here's something I came across during a Dublin conference last week: http://widget.vodafone.com/dev...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<pre style="margin: 0em;">It looks a bit like Blinki's more or less dead or inactive.
3 new messages, the last one end of June.</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Well maybe everybody went on a 2-3 month vacation ?;-)</pre><br>
<pre style="margin: 0em;">Here's something I came across during a Dublin conference last week:
<a  href="http://widget.vodafone.com/dev/">http://widget.vodafone.com/dev/</a></pre><br>
<tt>It looks like a rather good match to what this project said it wanted to 
archive.<br>
No native apps of any kind, more WebApps or &quot;Widgets&quot; as those are also just 
a combination or HTML, XML with CSS, JavaScript and a couple of other (W3C) 
standards.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Furthermore, Vodafone got support for a whole lot of S60 based devices 
already, but doesn't outrule iPhone support for those in future. Blinki at 
least proposed to target the iPhone first, so the 2 ideas seem to complement 
each other. Plus Vodafone wishes to get this more standardized than they 
already see it, and at least with JavaME (and I believe also parts of 
Eclipse Mobile/Embedded) they are also involved in standard organizations 
like the JCP.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>This could be a (Red) ray of light to get Blinki start blinking its lifeline 
?!;-)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Good Luck,<br>
Werner </tt><br>
<br>
<br>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:22:21 GMT</pubDate>
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