[news.eclipse.tools.pdt] Re: aptana php support

[hertzel <emudojo@xxxxxxxxx>]

I usually don judge something based just on a screencast, and of couse I 
love PDT but.. there's something a big difference... when you open a 
ticket with the aptana guys the SOLVE it usually within a week, and they 
do regular major updates... I still remember how long I had to wait to 
see real folders with 2.0 (not packages) and how many mails where send 
to this list about it.

Now if you as a company rely on others to improve YOUR product you are 
placing yourself against a wall, as they can compromise the overall 
quality of your solution (its actually happening with WST).

I agree that aptana tends to release things too fast for my tastes, but 
no everything is home made take for example python and ruby those two 
where the most popular stand alone eclipse projects for those two 
languages and aptana brought them to ensure in house support for them 
and enhance the feel of a solid foundation to their paid customers

Here the same applies with Zend and ZendStudio´.


There are just different stand points


Exception e wrote:
> hertzel schreef:
> > my question is it is even close?
> close to what?
>
> If I look at the screencasts, I think their php-plugin have slightly 
> surpassed pdt . Combined with their stronger support for html, js, css 
> and so forth they are an enormous threat to pdt. Aptana moves incredibly 
> fast. Almost each month they add a new library/plugin/language.
> But I don't know how stable it is.
>
> I simply don't understand why they can build such huge things (aptana 
> cloud anyone?) with a modest team, while simple features in phpeclipse 
> and pdt, whose teams only focus on php, takes years to come.
> Check out aptana.com and look at their documentation, products, 
> screencasts, tutorials, and bug system: they must use some magic in 
> their office. I don't mean that pdt is particularly slow—I don't have 
> enough insight to judge upon that—but the competitor is apparently at 
> least 4 times stronger.
>
> I think it will be a matter of a few months before support for php 
> frameworks will arrive in aptana.
> The next competitive advantage in the php-IDE is php 5.3 /6.0 support. I 
> am curious who will be the first.