Re: [wtp-pmc] Hot bugs for 3.0.1

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry I missed the call yesterday ...
I heard it was more painful than the dental surgery I was getting :) 

I'd like to see this 244268 bug fixed
for 3.0.1 ... hard to call it "critical" (originator originally
did, but I asked him not to, since it didn't result in data loss, etc.)
but it does "block" some important scenarios ... In some cases
it's might be called "blocking" but, since pretty specific scenarios
that seemed like overkill   .... so IF WE RESPIN then we should pick
this one up too. 

There are two others I'd like to see
fixed in 3.0.1 ...  
 244235 UIEarValidator reporting an error that should
be a warning   (awaiting one more PMC vote). 

and 

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243547
 the one called "JPA Deadlock ..."

That one is awaiting some testing, but I think the patch
there is the right sort of patch, so would like that fix in as we go through
final testing next week (assuming it passes it's testing from developers).



My own thought on the general matter is that its' hard
to come up with absolute rules about what to accept when, that each case
at this point is an exception of some type, and as such each has to be
evaluated on it's specific pros and cons. And, I do know if we say "critical
only" then people will just open critical bugs :) 

I think a future to do item might be to write up better
WTP specific descriptions for bugzilla status, that we in WTP want to use
... the generic bugzilla descriptions have some holes and seem hard for
people to follow.  Oh, and yes, also re-write/re-work the "hot
bug" process ... I'm not sure we are consistent with what that means
either. 

Hope this helps,

From:	Neil Hauge <neil.hauge@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:	"WTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements,        and Group discussions)" <wtp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	08/15/2008 12:32 PM
Subject:	[wtp-pmc] Hot bugs for 3.0.1

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PMC,

There are a couple of new to newish "hot bugs" out there from
adopters 
who hope to have bugs included in the 3.0.1 release.  For example,
this 
is a very recent hotbug request for Dali - 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=244268.
 I think this is a 
valid hot bug for a serious issue, but per our "hot bug" policy,
there 
should be some cut-off in a release where only critical issues can be 
addressed. 
(http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/adopters/hot_bug_process.html).
 This 
topic came up yesterday on the WTP call, and I made a judgment that we
were past the cut-off at this point.

Does anyone think that we should be considering non-critical hotbugs at
this point for 3.0.1?  Can anyone make an argument for bug 244268
being 
a critical issue, or something we (as a PMC) should consider for 3.0.1.

Thanks,
Neil
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