Re: [wtp-pmc] Comment on section 1.7.2.4 PHP Tools Project of the Web To

[Lawrence Mandel <lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Bob,

I'm not familiar with the background
for this issue but this sounds like a bad situation to me. I think where
possible projects should communicate and work together to avoid duplicating
function. WRT servers, I think Eclipse should have one way to create and
control servers as users will likely want to install both Java and PHP
Web development tools. As WTP users are already familiar with the WTP server
tools I really think that creating another way to control servers for PHP
is a mistake. (Actually, I think it's a mistake for the PHP project to
not seamlessly integrate with WTP as I think Eclipse users will expect
it to.) Remember, many users will install Eclipse, WTP and PHP and expect
all the projects to work together.

Instead of creating a competing server
framework in the PHP project, which seems to me to be out of scope for
the project (the creation review slides for the project state one of the
goals is to "Leverage the existing Web Tools Project in providing
developers with PHP capabilities" [1]), I'd like to see the PHP committers
work with the WTP server tools team. Can you set up a meeting between the
two teams to discuss the limitations/problems the PHP team is having with
the server tools? (Has this call already happened?)

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/php/documents/PHP%20IDE%20-%20creation%20review.pdf

Thanks,

Lawrence Mandel

Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814   Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
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Subject	[wtp-pmc] Comment on section 1.7.2.4 PHP Tools Project of the Web Tools Platform 2.0 Plan

The PHP tools project has dropped or is planning to dropped support for
the Apache Server built on top of the WTP server infrastructure. The PHP
team is building there own Apache server support which isn't based on the
WTP server infrastructure. ATF has picked up the Apache Server based on
the WTP infrastructure and integrated it into ATF. In the process the ATF
team changed the GUIs back to match the WTP server GUIs for creating a
Server. The PHP team didn't think that the WTP GUIs were very intuitive.
Since these GUIs are baked into the WTP infrastructure, changing the GUIs
caused a number of problems. Eventually the PHP team decided to move off
the WTP server infrastructure. 

    Thanks 
       Bob 

Robert Goodman
IBM Emerging Technologies
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