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RE: [wtp-jst-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
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Hi everyone,
I opened a bug for JSR-88 support
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=100525
Please subscribe it if you're interested in technical aspect of the
support.
Thanks,
Thomas
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wtp-jst-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-jst-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Naci Dai
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:37 PM
> To: General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
> Cc: wtp-jst-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [wtp-jst-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
>
> This week is pretty bad for me, how about sometime next week?
>
> >
> > Marshall,
> >
> > Yes. Let's have a call. We need to get Naci and Tim to attend since
> > they are responsible for the J2EE server component.
> >
> > Naci/Tim - When would be a good time? I know everyone is busy with
the
> > M5 shutdown.
> >
> > Let's move this discussion to the wtp-jst-dev list.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman,
> > Rational Desktop Tools Development
> >
> > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: 4169395063@xxxxxxx
> > intranet: http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/
> >
> >
> > *Marshall Culpepper <marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx>*
> > Sent by: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > 06/21/2005 03:26 PM
> > Please respond to
> > "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."
> > <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Great, would a meeting be prudent? If so, let's set one up sometime
to
> > discuss what we currently have and figure out how best to fit into
> > webtools.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman wrote:
> >
> > Marshall,
> >
> > AFAIK, work has not begun. Yes, let's collaborate.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman,
> > Rational Desktop Tools Development
> >
> > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: _4169395063@fido.ca_
> > <mailto:4169395063@xxxxxxx>
> > intranet: _http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/_
> >
> > *Marshall Culpepper **_<marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx>_*
> > <mailto:marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > 06/21/2005 10:28 AM
> > Please respond to
> > "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."
> >
> >
> > To
> > "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."
> > _<wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_ <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> > Robert Stryker _<rawblem@xxxxxxxxx>_ <mailto:rawblem@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject
> > Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Has work on JSR88 for WTP began yet? Rob Stryker is currently
working
> > on an implementation for JBossIDE.. we should talk about
collaboration
> > so there isn't a duplication of effort =).
> >
> > Thomas Yip wrote:
> >
> > Alright! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *_wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [_mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Ryman*
> > Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:14 PM*
> > To:* General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. *
> > Cc:* General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. ;
> > _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_ <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>*
> > Subject:* RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas,
> >
> > Yes, I believe we cited both JSR 77 and JSR 88 in our plans. We need
> > to start making progress on those.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman,
> > Rational Desktop Tools Development
> >
> > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: _4169395063@fido.ca_
> > <mailto:4169395063@xxxxxxx>
> > intranet: _http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/_
> >
> > *"Thomas Yip" **_<tyip@xxxxxxx>_* <mailto:tyip@xxxxxxx>* *
> > Sent by: _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > 06/16/2005 08:06 PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > " General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. "
> >
> >
> > To " General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. "
> > _<wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_ <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> > Subject RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For deployment, I think "JSR 88: J2EE Application Deployment" is the
> > way to go.
> >
> > It defines a standard way of deploy/undeploy/start/stop an
> > application. Looking at the expert groups, the momentum is there.
> > However, I haven't heard many vendors have implemented them in their
> > release version. When it is ready, we certainly want to help on
> > getting the control and ui in WTP.
> >
> > I believe debugging and profiling support doesn't require much
> > modification.
> >
> > I am not sure there is a defacto way of using JMX for remote
starting
> > and stopping of server. Maybe the assumption is that the server is
> > always up and running during the development.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> > From: *_wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [_mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of *Arthur Ryman*
> > Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:34 PM*
> > To:* _gerry.kessler@oracle.com_ <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> > General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. *
> > Cc:* _wtp-dev@eclipse.org_ <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_ <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>*
> > Subject:* RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> > Gerry,
> >
> > Tim Deboer is the authoritative source on this topic. However, the
> > current support does not require JMX. You can use any proprietary
> > means of controlling the server. Our intension is to move towards
the
> > JCP standards in this area such as JSR 77. Are you interesting in
> > working on that?
> >
> > Aside from publishing, you should support debugging and profiling.
You
> > should also be able to restart the server or a specific application,
> > and do the usual config such as adding or deleting applications.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman,
> > Rational Desktop Tools Development
> >
> > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: _4169395063@fido.ca_
> > <mailto:4169395063@xxxxxxx>
> > intranet: _http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/_
> >
> > *"Gerry Kessler" **_<gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>_*
> > <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>* *
> > Sent by: _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > 06/16/2005 04:49 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to_
> > __"gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx"_ <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx> and
"
> > General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, _"wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx"_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> _<wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> > Subject RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Arthur,
> >
> > Thanks for the response - I do understand that a remote server would
> > require a controller of some kind like JMX to manage it. More
> > specifically, I am looking to find out what services, if any, the
WTP
> > framework supplies for remote servers. If there are services, how
do
> > I plugin to them?
> >
> > What are the implied requirements for "supporting" a remote host?
> > Clearly publishing to it is a must-have as there would be little
point
> > without it. What else?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry Kessler
> > Oracle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----*
> > From:* Arthur Ryman [_mailto:ryman@xxxxxx.com_]*
> > Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:47 PM*
> > To:* _gerry.kessler@oracle.com_ <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>;
> > General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. *
> > Subject:* Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> > Gerry,
> >
> > A remote server is a server that is located on another machine. You
> > need some type of controller on that machine, or use JMX.
> >
> > Arthur Ryman,
> > Rational Desktop Tools Development
> >
> > phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
> > assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
> > fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
> > mobile: +1-416-939-5063, text: _4169395063@fido.ca_
> > <mailto:4169395063@xxxxxxx>
> > intranet: _http://labweb.torolab.ibm.com/DRY6/_
> >
> > *"Gerry Kessler" **_<gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>_*
> > <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>* *
> > Sent by: _wtp-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> > <mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > 06/16/2005 03:01 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to_
> > __"gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx"_ <mailto:gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx> and
"
> > General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues. "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To _"wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx"_ <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > _<wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_ <mailto:wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> > Subject [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim deBoer posted the following in the newsgroup recently:
> >
> > " The WTP server framework fully supports remote servers, however
none
> > of the
> > current server types that have been contributed to WTP do. There are
no
> > immediate plans for remote server support, but contributions may
appear
> in
> > later versions."
> >
> > Could someone please clarify what is meant by "supports remote
> > servers"? What does the framework provide? What would the server
> > provider be expected to provide? Documentation?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry Kessler
> > Oracle _______________________________________________
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> > --
> > Marshall Culpepper_
> > __marshall.culpepper@jboss.com_
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