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Re: [wtp-dev] JSON Editor contribution
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On 6 Jul 2015, at 1:39, Doug Schaefer wrote:
The dependency on SSE is an issue. I guess I don¹t know enough about
it to
appreciate it. Could someone explain what it gives you?
For one that we can get it now not later, second that we can use
existing apis/infrastructure.
/max
I¹m also starting up a project to make it easier to add languages to
Eclipse. No promises of when that will land so I¹m not going to offer
that
as an alternative at this time. But I would certainly consider doing a
JSON editor with it.
Doug.
On 2015-07-05, 5:02 PM, "wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
Gorkem
Ercan" <wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 5 Jul 2015, at 17:11, Kaloyan Raev wrote:
Hi,
Let me chime in with my wishes :-)
It would be really great to have JSON editor developed and
maintained
under
Eclipse Foundation. My use case is around Composer. Composer is a
dependency manager for PHP - very similar to what Bower is for
JavaScript.
The configuration file is called composer.json. So, a JSON editor
would be
helpful for editing the composer.json file as a source file. It
would
be
great if I can extend the JSON editor with code completion specific
for
Composer.
The main difference with Bower is that Composer is a pure PHP
technology
with no relationship to JavaScript. Therefore, it would be great if
the
JSON editor has no dependency to the rest of JSDT and is available
as
a
separate Eclipse feature.
JSON editor contribution only has SSE dependency. There are no JSDT
dependencies. I agree that
we should not introduce JSDT (or any other similar) dependency to it
and
I do not think we need to.
Because we want to have bower and npm etc. have better support on
JSDT I
think can have a dependency
to JSON editor.
It would be great also if the JSON editor is designed for embedding
in
multi-tab editors.
Greetings,
Kaloyan
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Angelo zerr <angelo.zerr@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
That's pretty good news!
Thanks Angelo for submitting, and Gorkem for the follow-up.
Glad Eclipse WTP JSON contribution please you! But there a lot of
work
again to stablize it (I mean sync of IJSONModel with editor).
Is this really WTP?
Yes, because Eclipse WTP JSON is based on WTP and I have tried to
follow
the same architecture than WTP XML Editor :
* JFlex grammar
* the JSON editor maintain a IJSONModel (like IDOMModel for XML)
which
implements SSE model (IStructuredModel, etc).
* the JSON Editor is a StructuredTextEditor, which can be extended
with
WTP extension points.
* it provides completion (for npm, bower depdencies) like XML
editor.
JSON is a very common data format that's used in many places,
especially
with config files.
Right, I think we should have a new component called "wst.json"
like
we
have "wst.html", "wst.xml", etc. This component provides only the
core/ui
of JSON Editor. In other word, those projects
https://github.com/angelozerr/eclipse-wtp-json/tree/master/core
The JSON Editor can be extended for instance to provide custom
completion.
I have done that for npm and bower dependencies. So I think JSDT
should
host
https://github.com/angelozerr/eclipse-wtp-json/tree/master/bower
and
https://github.com/angelozerr/eclipse-wtp-json/tree/master/npm
Regard's Angelo
2015-07-04 14:49 GMT+02:00 Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.ercan@xxxxxxxxx>:
On 4 Jul 2015, at 4:17, Mickael Istria wrote:
On 07/04/2015 09:10 AM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
From the process side, the main thing you loose is ability to
control
your releases. Only a project can release. If you a part of WTP,
you are
tied to WTP release schedule, which may be a problem for some
adopters that
are on a faster release cycle. For instance, you would not be
able
to do
the first release until June of next year, unless you can
convince
WTP
leadership to allow this feature into a service release.
The effort we've made in making JSDT easy to build locally and by
providing an additional dedicated build and p2 repo for JSDT
snapshots goes
in the direction of allowing it to deliver faster than WTP, and
if
not
releasing it, to allow users and integrators to get access to
more
recent
builds more easily.
In that context, I believe it would be totally do-able to make a
JSDT
release for SR1 or SR2 if we want to (and it seems more and more
likely).
As long as JSDT relies on stable APIs of WTP, it shouldn't cause
any issue.
Such a release could include a JSON editor.
In the end, I (and some others) don't believe in the concept of a
simultaneous build/release for WTP. There are too many things in
it
that
don't evolve at the same time at all, and the benefit of a
simultaneous
build/release is quite questionable since the Eclipse release
train
already
takes care of that.
The next step for WTP seems to turn into a container project,
just
like
Tools or Technology, and to let individual projects live their
own
lifecycle (but still discuss together via mailing-list) rather
than
adding
constraints that are clearly not in sync with nowadays needs in
adoption of
technologies.
+1 WTP subprojects should do independent releases. Especially
projects
like SSE and JSDT that are be consumed independent of most of WTP.
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat
<http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets <
http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
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