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Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

Fred,

I checked with a couple of committers and it looks like we'll be waiting for community help on the TomEE support.  Feel free to submit patch on the bug if you want this support on Luna.  I have added some comment to the bug.  We can continue the discussion via the bug.

Regards,
Elson

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Inactive hide details for Fred Bricon ---11/07/2013 10:36:54 AM---So, just so we're clear, should we expect the WTP team to worFred Bricon ---11/07/2013 10:36:54 AM---So, just so we're clear, should we expect the WTP team to work on a TomEE server adapter (provided v

From: Fred Bricon <fbricon@xxxxxxxxx>
To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx, "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 11/07/2013 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
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So, just so we're clear, should we expect the WTP team to work on a TomEE server adapter (provided via the discovery mechanism) or will you guys wait for an external contribution? 

I personally can't imagine a TomEE server adapter living outside the WTP codebase, since it's pretty much a tomcat 7++. And I'm pretty sure at least the Tomcat runtime detection algorithm will need to know about it, to avoid detecting it as tomcat 7.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    Thanks for the clarification.

     

    Mike Milinkovich

    mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx

    +1.613.220.3223

     

    From: wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elson Yuen
    Sent:
     November-07-13 9:25 AM


    To:
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     Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

     

    Let me clarify that I am not suggesting to move the tomcat server out of the WTP project.  All I am saying is we'd like to expose the new server adapters via the discovery mechanism.

    Regards,
    Elson

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    Inactive hide details for Tim deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21 AM---This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is sugTim deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21 AM---This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is suggesting otherwise. I assume this was

    From:
    Tim deBoer/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
    To:
    "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
    Date:
    11/07/2013 08:43 AM
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    Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
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    This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is suggesting otherwise. I assume this was just paranoia around Elson's choice of words.

    Tim


    Inactive hide details for Mike Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34 PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to thMike Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34 PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to the notion of supporting popular open source s



    From:

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    To:

wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, "'General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.'" <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,

    Date:

05/11/2013 06:03 PM

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Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

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    A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to the notion of supporting popular open source servers like Tomcat out of the box. Last time I checked, Tomcat was an Apache project, not "vendor specific".


    From: Konstantin Komissarchik
    Sent:
    Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:55 PM
    To:
    'General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.'
    Reply To:
    General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
    Subject:
    Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

    While decoupling of WTP from individual server adapters is great, we should not be pushing server adapter maintainers away from Eclipse Foundation, if that’s where the maintainers would like to develop and host a particular adapter. This is especially true for adapters with long history of active development at Eclipse Foundation, like the Tomcat adapter. The key goals is decoupling of adapter schedules from WTP schedule and providing uniform access to adapters via adapter discovery, but none of those goals actually require moving adapter development somewhere else. Tomcat adapter could be split off as a separate project under server tools (provides release schedule independence) and published on
    eclipse.org for adapter discovery.

    - Konstantin


    From:
     wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elson Yuen
    Sent:
     Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:32 PM
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    In general, our direction is to move away to from shipping individual server adapters directly within WTP.  We are pushing for all vendor specific server adapters to provide externally via the "Download additional server adapters" link.  Therefore, if you happens to be creating a new server adapter for TomEE, it should be exposed via the downloadable server adapter.  See the plugin org.eclipse.wst.server.discovery for providing additional server adapter.

    Regards,
    Elson

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    Inactive hide details for Larry Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55 PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-doLarry Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55 PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do list including creating a BZ entry.  Th

    From:
    Larry Isaacs <Larry.Isaacs@xxxxxxx>
    To:
    "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
    Date:
    11/05/2013 04:06 PM
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    Hi Fred,

    With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do list including creating a BZ entry.  The problem is I’m back to struggling to finding enough cycles to get something finished and committed.  I have done some initial work that needs a little clean up before it is ready to commit.  The big unknown is the “Serve Modules without Publishing” feature, as they have made major changes to how resources are handled in Tomcat 8.  That will likely have to come later.  It’s unclear whether I will get the initial work committed for 3.6.0M3.  I have some extra vacation scheduled around Thanksgiving, so I should be able to get it into 3.6.0M4 if not in M3.

    Cheers,
    Larry


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     wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wtp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fred Bricon
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     Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:40 PM
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    Subject:
     [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support

    Hi,

    I vaguely remember reading something, somewhere, about a Tomcat 8 support work-in-progress. I couldn't find any related BZ ticket though. What's the status on that matter?

    There's one request[1] to add TomEE to the list of supported servers. Do you have any plans on adding that to Luna?

    Thanks,

    Fred

    {1]
    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=387733


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