Re: [wtp-dev] JSDT and e4

[Phil Berkland <berkland@xxxxxxxxxx>]

JSDT pretty much includes all the features
for developing JS as the JDT does for Java,  except for run/debug
support.

For doing the e4 related work, it seems like there are 2 flavors of what
need to be done, one to support development of plugins
in JS, and one to support eclipse on
the web (Web 2.0 stuff).

For supporting plugins in JS, we would
need:
        -
Rhino debugger,  I t think this already exists in BIRT, hopefully
it could be broken out into a stand-alone plugin.
        -
PDE integration, since JSDT provides much the same extension points/ (provisional)
APIs as JDT, it should be pretty straightforward to do      
    this.
 A resulting SDK would consist
of:
        base
eclipse SDK
           
    JSDT core/UI plugins
           
    Rhino Debug plugin
           
    PDE integration plugin (or modified existing PDE)

For supporting Web 2.0 / Eclipse on
Web,  I would think the base SDK would be WTP.
The only additional piece needed would
be JS on browser debugging support, which we can get from the ATF project.
             






Phil Berkland
IBM Software Group Emerging Technologies

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(I'm finally starting to get caught up on my email...)

There haven't been any conversations (with anybody) about _javascript_
tooling yet. All that those bullets on the slides were intended to convey
was that if the SDK is going to have an increased focus on _javascript_
support (e.g. plug-ins in _javascript_, scripting, web 2.0 stuff,...) then
JS
tools will need to be part of the SDK.

I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts about ways to make
that
happen. The bad news is that I don't have any idea how best to proceed.
(The good news is I have no preconceptions. <g>)

McQ.



                    
                     
                     
          
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We havent been involved in any conversations yet, but hope to be in the
future.  I did touch base with Jeff McActer after the e4 presentation.

Phil Berkland
IBM Software Group Emerging Technologies

                    
                     
                     
          
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Today at the Eclipse 4.0 talk at EclipseCon there an emphasis placed on
first-class _javascript_ tooling being part of e4 (because of the desire
to
allow people to write plugins using _javascript_). Has the JSDT team been
involved in these conversations?

- Konstantin




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