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[wtp-dev] Testing WTP install from Europa Discovery Site failed

Hi,

The Europa testing does not look very good for WTP functions.

I then did 3 different tests:

1. Mimimum set testing with just choosing wst under "Web and JEE Development".
Check "select required".  This selected all it's prereqs (e.g. EMF, GEF etc.).
2. Normal set testing with just choosing jst under "Web and JEE Development".
Check "select required".  This selected all it's prereqs (including wst).
3. Maximum set testing with choosing all Europa component (except to not select
"other tools" (because of bug 191530 -  Buckminster - Subversion support
missing required plugin).

In all 3 tests, most of the WTP functions (except server tooling) seems to be missing even though the wst and jst plugins are there.  I've opened defect 191585 (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=191585) to track this problem.

Regards,
Kathy Chan
Rational Java Web Services, IBM Toronto Lab
D3-354, D3/R8V/8200/MKM, 8200 Warden Avenue, Markham, Ontario, Canada, L6G 1C7
kathy@xxxxxxxxxx, (905) 413-3022, tieline: 969-6038, fax: (905) 413-4920

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Well.  I tried using the Europa Discovery Site to install wst.  WTP was not listed as one of the option when I choose the Ottawa mirror site.  I have to choose the "Europa Discovery Site" in the list of update mirrors rather than the other mirror site for the "Web and JEE Development" to show up.  (David suspect it's because the products were just promoted last night and did not get mirrored properly yet).

I picked WST, then "select required" to install wst and it's prereqs.  After the install, the wst plugins seems to be there OK:

        49,500 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.core_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
        28,987 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.doc.user_1.5.0.v200705302225.jar
         2,862 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.infopop_1.0.2.v200705302225.jar
        97,247 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.ui_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
<DIR>          org.eclipse.wst.command.env_1.0.203.v200705302225
        35,414 org.eclipse.wst.common.core_1.1.100.v200705302225.jar
       128,861 org.eclipse.wst.common.emfworkbench.integration_1.1.103.v200705302225.ja
       196,431 org.eclipse.wst.common.emf_1.1.103.v200705302225.jar
        37,976 org.eclipse.wst.common.environment_1.0.200.v200705302225.jar
       127,012 org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks.ui_1.1.100.v200705302225.jar
       110,413 org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks_1.1.102.v200705302225.jar
         3,556 org.eclipse.wst.common.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
       265,930 org.eclipse.wst.common.modulecore_1.1.102.v200705302200.jar
       218,074 org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core_1.2.0.v200705311546.jar
       195,125 org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.ui_1.2.0.v200705302225.jar
       240,722 org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
       102,605 org.eclipse.wst.common.ui.properties_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
       123,056 org.eclipse.wst.common.ui_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
        34,267 org.eclipse.wst.common.uriresolver_1.1.201.v200705302225.jar
       482,527 org.eclipse.wst.css.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
       232,149 org.eclipse.wst.css.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
       780,163 org.eclipse.wst.doc.user_1.1.0.v200705302225.jar
       389,501 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
         4,587 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
       203,297 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        30,486 org.eclipse.wst.dtdeditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
       576,001 org.eclipse.wst.html.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
         5,466 org.eclipse.wst.html.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
       218,393 org.eclipse.wst.html.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        37,117 org.eclipse.wst.internet.cache_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        57,655 org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.core_1.0.103.v200705302225.jar
        97,867 org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.ui_1.0.103.v200705302225.jar
        52,418 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.core_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
         4,315 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
       557,319 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.ui_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
       273,388 org.eclipse.wst.server.core_1.0.204.v200705302225.jar
        24,813 org.eclipse.wst.server.http.core_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
        33,028 org.eclipse.wst.server.http.ui_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
        34,515 org.eclipse.wst.server.preview.adapter_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
        21,556 org.eclipse.wst.server.preview_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
       101,746 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui.doc.user_1.0.303.v200705302225.jar
         7,802 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui.infopop_1.0.5.v200705302225.jar
       706,774 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui_1.0.204.v200705302225.jar
       369,880 org.eclipse.wst.sse.core_1.1.201.v200705302225.jar
       116,085 org.eclipse.wst.sse.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
         4,799 org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui.infopop_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
       694,595 org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui_1.0.302.v200706042202.jar
       120,781 org.eclipse.wst.standard.schemas_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
         3,987 org.eclipse.wst.validation.infopop_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        98,248 org.eclipse.wst.validation.ui_1.1.102.v200705302225.jar
       188,613 org.eclipse.wst.validation_1.1.101.v200705302200.jar
         3,526 org.eclipse.wst.web.ui.infopop_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        48,102 org.eclipse.wst.web.ui_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
        97,338 org.eclipse.wst.webtools.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        50,129 org.eclipse.wst.web_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
<DIR>          org.eclipse.wst.ws.explorer_1.0.204.v200706030435
         3,678 org.eclipse.wst.ws.infopop_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
        43,510 org.eclipse.wst.ws.parser_1.0.201.v200706030435.jar
        19,693 org.eclipse.wst.ws.ui_1.0.202.v200705311823.jar
        80,666 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
       767,035 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui_1.2.0.v200706030435.jar
       172,419 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.validation_1.1.201.v200706030435.jar
       401,348 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl_1.1.0.v200706030435.jar
        43,489 org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui.doc.user_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
        66,230 org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui_1.0.300.v200706030435.jar
       805,816 org.eclipse.wst.wsi_1.0.104.v200706030435.jar
       205,194 org.eclipse.wst.ws_1.0.202.v200705311823.jar
       611,030 org.eclipse.wst.xml.core_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
         6,868 org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
       715,299 org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
       118,674 org.eclipse.wst.xmleditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        61,593 org.eclipse.wst.xsd.core_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
     1,068,359 org.eclipse.wst.xsd.ui_1.2.0.v200705311615.jar
       115,326 org.eclipse.wst.xsdeditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        10,790 org.eclipse.wst_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar

However, when I bring up the workspace, I don't see some of WST functionality enabled.  For example, the only New wizard available was "General" and "Server".  I'm not able to create static Web project or launch the Web Services Explorer, which should be WST functions.  I don't see any entry in the .log file regarding "missing required bundle" either.

Regards,

Kathy Chan
Rational Java Web Services, IBM Toronto Lab
D3-354, D3/R8V/8200/MKM, 8200 Warden Avenue, Markham, Ontario, Canada, L6G 1C7
kathy@xxxxxxxxxx, (905) 413-3022, tieline: 969-6038, fax: (905) 413-4920

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Also ... I'll add ... be sure to test with different features installed in different locations. This is settable about three dialogs of "next" using the update manager.

Due to various reasons, it is possible that update manager will install the same bundle at different locations, but only one of them gets activated for any particular session.

This will cause some odd looking messages in your log, such as the following:

!ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2007-06-05 23:25:25.609
!MESSAGE Could not install bundle ../WTP/eclipse/plugins/org.apache.commons.logging_1.0.4.v200705231731.jar  
Bundle "org.apache.commons.logging" version "1.0.4.v200705231731" has already been installed
from: update@plugins/org.apache.commons.logging_1.0.4.v200705231731.jar

Notice the name and versions are identical. It is not obvious from the message, but I installed "WTP" in a directory called " ../WTP/" relative to the base Eclipse. And, "commons.logging" is used by base, and us, so it ends up installed twice and is just an informative message ... there is no real error in that. (this is desirable, since a whole location can be "disabled", resulting in a missing bundle if not installed twice).

So ... the thing to test is ... does anyone make any funny "file system location" assumptions that they should not be making.

I did test bottom-up webservice creation with this particular division of locations and it worked fine. (and think it is one case that "locates" and copies "commons.logging" to server?)
That means Kathy and the WebServices team have done a good job :) ... but has everyone else, everywhere?

As long as everyone is using "platform:" URL scheme things should work fine ... but ... for an extreme example, if someone were to "look up" commons.logging, and then assume from there where the "axis" bundle was located at some relative location, they'd be wrong in these cases.

Hopefully this is "old news" and no one does this ... just a reminder that there is a lot of testing still to do!

Thanks,



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I just wanted to remind everyone to do some testing with Installs from the Europa Discovery Site.
Starting Wednesday the (built in) "Europa Discovery Site" should point to a complete set of RC2 of plugins.

Minimum:

One of the new things in RC2 is the ability to install WST without JDT!
This has been much requested by non-Java web developers, and has taken a number of
teams cooperating to accomplish.

To do that level of testing you should install (only) the Eclipse Platform (not the whole Eclipse SDK). And, I'd suggest the RC2 version,
even though RC3 is available. (RC3 platform should work too ... but, if bugs found, you might want to be sure it wasn't just from using an RC3 base, with
RC2 plugins).

For example, pick a Platform Binary from
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.3RC2-200705251350/index.php
then "find updates", pick wst, then "select required".
The result is a "tiny" install of just 70 Megs, and should give you the
ability to create and "run web pages" on HTTP servers.

Maximum:

On the other extreme, I'd recommend every one try installing everything from RC2 Europa, and then running through
any of your normal web development scenarios to be sure they still work as expected and there's no undue
interference from elsewhere.  

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