[wtp-dev] Testing WST install from Europa Discovery Site

[Kathy Chan <kathy@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Well.  I tried using the Europa
Discovery Site to install wst.  WTP was not listed as one of the option
when I choose the Ottawa mirror site.  I have to choose the "Europa
Discovery Site" in the list of update mirrors rather than the other
mirror site for the "Web and JEE Development" to show up.  (David
suspect it's because the products were just promoted last night and did
not get mirrored properly yet).

I picked WST, then "select required"
to install wst and it's prereqs.  After the install, the wst plugins
seems to be there OK:

         49,500 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.core_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
         28,987 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.doc.user_1.5.0.v200705302225.jar
          2,862 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.infopop_1.0.2.v200705302225.jar
         97,247 org.eclipse.wst.command.env.ui_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
 <DIR>          org.eclipse.wst.command.env_1.0.203.v200705302225
         35,414 org.eclipse.wst.common.core_1.1.100.v200705302225.jar
        128,861 org.eclipse.wst.common.emfworkbench.integration_1.1.103.v200705302225.ja
        196,431 org.eclipse.wst.common.emf_1.1.103.v200705302225.jar
         37,976 org.eclipse.wst.common.environment_1.0.200.v200705302225.jar
        127,012 org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks.ui_1.1.100.v200705302225.jar
        110,413 org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks_1.1.102.v200705302225.jar
          3,556 org.eclipse.wst.common.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
        265,930 org.eclipse.wst.common.modulecore_1.1.102.v200705302200.jar
        218,074 org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core_1.2.0.v200705311546.jar
        195,125 org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.ui_1.2.0.v200705302225.jar
        240,722 org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
        102,605 org.eclipse.wst.common.ui.properties_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
        123,056 org.eclipse.wst.common.ui_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
         34,267 org.eclipse.wst.common.uriresolver_1.1.201.v200705302225.jar
        482,527 org.eclipse.wst.css.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
        232,149 org.eclipse.wst.css.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
        780,163 org.eclipse.wst.doc.user_1.1.0.v200705302225.jar
        389,501 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
          4,587 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
        203,297 org.eclipse.wst.dtd.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
         30,486 org.eclipse.wst.dtdeditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        576,001 org.eclipse.wst.html.core_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
          5,466 org.eclipse.wst.html.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
        218,393 org.eclipse.wst.html.ui_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
         37,117 org.eclipse.wst.internet.cache_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
         57,655 org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.core_1.0.103.v200705302225.jar
         97,867 org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.ui_1.0.103.v200705302225.jar
         52,418 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.core_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
          4,315 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
        557,319 org.eclipse.wst._javascript_.ui_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
        273,388 org.eclipse.wst.server.core_1.0.204.v200705302225.jar
         24,813 org.eclipse.wst.server.http.core_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
         33,028 org.eclipse.wst.server.http.ui_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
         34,515 org.eclipse.wst.server.preview.adapter_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
         21,556 org.eclipse.wst.server.preview_1.0.0.v200705302225.jar
        101,746 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui.doc.user_1.0.303.v200705302225.jar
          7,802 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui.infopop_1.0.5.v200705302225.jar
        706,774 org.eclipse.wst.server.ui_1.0.204.v200705302225.jar
        369,880 org.eclipse.wst.sse.core_1.1.201.v200705302225.jar
        116,085 org.eclipse.wst.sse.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
          4,799 org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui.infopop_1.0.101.v200705302225.jar
        694,595 org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui_1.0.302.v200706042202.jar
        120,781 org.eclipse.wst.standard.schemas_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
          3,987 org.eclipse.wst.validation.infopop_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
         98,248 org.eclipse.wst.validation.ui_1.1.102.v200705302225.jar
        188,613 org.eclipse.wst.validation_1.1.101.v200705302200.jar
          3,526 org.eclipse.wst.web.ui.infopop_1.0.201.v200705302225.jar
         48,102 org.eclipse.wst.web.ui_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
         97,338 org.eclipse.wst.webtools.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
         50,129 org.eclipse.wst.web_1.1.101.v200705302225.jar
 <DIR>          org.eclipse.wst.ws.explorer_1.0.204.v200706030435
          3,678 org.eclipse.wst.ws.infopop_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
         43,510 org.eclipse.wst.ws.parser_1.0.201.v200706030435.jar
         19,693 org.eclipse.wst.ws.ui_1.0.202.v200705311823.jar
         80,666 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        767,035 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui_1.2.0.v200706030435.jar
        172,419 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.validation_1.1.201.v200706030435.jar
        401,348 org.eclipse.wst.wsdl_1.1.0.v200706030435.jar
         43,489 org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui.doc.user_1.0.202.v200705302225.jar
         66,230 org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui_1.0.300.v200706030435.jar
        805,816 org.eclipse.wst.wsi_1.0.104.v200706030435.jar
        205,194 org.eclipse.wst.ws_1.0.202.v200705311823.jar
        611,030 org.eclipse.wst.xml.core_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
          6,868 org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.infopop_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar
        715,299 org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
        118,674 org.eclipse.wst.xmleditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
         61,593 org.eclipse.wst.xsd.core_1.1.200.v200705302225.jar
      1,068,359 org.eclipse.wst.xsd.ui_1.2.0.v200705311615.jar
        115,326 org.eclipse.wst.xsdeditor.doc.user_1.0.300.v200705302225.jar
         10,790 org.eclipse.wst_1.0.1.v200705302225.jar

However, when I bring up the workspace,
I don't see some of WST functionality enabled.  For example, the only
New wizard available was "General" and "Server".  I'm
not able to create static Web project or launch the Web Services Explorer,
which should be WST functions.  I don't see any entry in the .log
file regarding "missing required bundle" either.

Regards,

Kathy Chan
Rational Java Web Services, IBM Toronto Lab
D3-354, D3/R8V/8200/MKM, 8200 Warden Avenue, Markham, Ontario, Canada,
L6G 1C7
kathy@xxxxxxxxxx, (905) 413-3022, tieline: 969-6038, fax: (905) 413-4920

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David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>
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06/05/2007 11:47 PM

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Subject	Re: [wtp-dev] Testing from Europa Discovery Site -- in different        locations

Also ... I'll add ... be sure to test with different features installed
in different locations. This is settable about three dialogs of "next"
using the update manager. 

Due to various reasons, it is possible that update manager will install
the same bundle at different locations, but only one of them gets activated
for any particular session. 

This will cause some odd looking messages in your log, such as the following:

!ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2007-06-05 23:25:25.609
!MESSAGE Could not install bundle ../WTP/eclipse/plugins/org.apache.commons.logging_1.0.4.v200705231731.jar
  
Bundle "org.apache.commons.logging" version "1.0.4.v200705231731"
has already been installed 
from: update@plugins/org.apache.commons.logging_1.0.4.v200705231731.jar

Notice the name and versions are identical. It is not obvious from the
message, but I installed "WTP" in a directory called " ../WTP/"
relative to the base Eclipse. And, "commons.logging" is used
by base, and us, so it ends up installed twice and is just an informative
message ... there is no real error in that. (this is desirable, since a
whole location can be "disabled", resulting in a missing bundle
if not installed twice). 

So ... the thing to test is ... does anyone make any funny "file system
location" assumptions that they should not be making. 

I did test bottom-up webservice creation with this particular division
of locations and it worked fine. (and think it is one case that "locates"
and copies "commons.logging" to server?) 
That means Kathy and the WebServices team have done a good job :) ... but
has everyone else, everywhere? 

As long as everyone is using "platform:" URL scheme things should
work fine ... but ... for an extreme example, if someone were to "look
up" commons.logging, and then assume from there where the "axis"
bundle was located at some relative location, they'd be wrong in these
cases. 

Hopefully this is "old news" and no one does this ... just a
reminder that there is a lot of testing still to do! 

Thanks,

David M Williams/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
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06/05/2007 10:03 PM

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Subject	[wtp-dev] Testing from Europa Discovery Site -- without JDT!!!

I just wanted to remind everyone to do some testing with Installs from
the Europa Discovery Site. 
Starting Wednesday the (built in) "Europa Discovery Site" should
point to a complete set of RC2 of plugins. 

Minimum: 

One of the new things in RC2 is the ability to install WST without JDT!
This has been much requested by non-Java web developers, and has taken
a number of 
teams cooperating to accomplish. 

To do that level of testing you should install (only) the Eclipse Platform
(not the whole Eclipse SDK). And, I'd suggest the RC2 version, 
even though RC3 is available. (RC3 platform should work too ... but, if
bugs found, you might want to be sure it wasn't just from using an RC3
base, with 
RC2 plugins). 

For example, pick a Platform Binary from 
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.3RC2-200705251350/index.php
then "find updates", pick wst, then "select required".
The result is a "tiny" install of just 70 Megs, and should give
you the 
ability to create and "run web pages" on HTTP servers. 

Maximum: 

On the other extreme, I'd recommend every one try installing everything
from RC2 Europa, and then running through 
any of your normal web development scenarios to be sure they still work
as expected and there's no undue 
interference from elsewhere.   

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