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Re: [wtp-dev] JEE 5 Working Group Meeting - Agenda

Hi All:

I had genuinely wanted to attend this meeting, but was without internet yesterday. Since the conference call information was only sent out yesterday, I did not receive it and was unable to call in.  Can we try to send out call details more than one day in advance? Hopefully this isn't too much of an inconvenience.

I'd like to dive into at least reading on the posted EJB3 bugs and model discussions to get a feel for what others are thinking and the general feel of those involved. Naci: can you get me a link to Chuck's ejb3 bugs as well as the discussions so that I can begin that task?

I think I'll have more suggestions and comments to make once I get a feel for the direction of the discussion.

Thanks. And again, sorry for not attending.

- Rob Stryker

On 1/4/07, Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thank you for the detailed explanations.  I have looked at the bugs to
get a feel for JBoss reqs.  There are lots of good things in there.

I think it would be very useful to gather these thoughts under a few
common topics.  Maybe Robert, can merge some of those bugs under Chuck's
EJB3 bugs, and model extensibility discussions that is being lead by SAP.

It will help us focus on critical items.

> Hi guys,
>> - Review M3 & M4 status for EJB 3.0 Facets and Projects
>>   Bugs:[167101,167097]
>> - Review JEE 5 Model Extension Point Design (Hristo Sabev)
>>   Bugs[167807]
> I promised before the holidays to give some info about how we had and are
> adding EJB3 support to JBossIDE and at the same time tries to be
> compatible
> with WTP projects; so here better late than never:
> What we have done is basically to create a EJB3 facet that is the best
> way we
> can hook into the lifecycle/wizardry of WTP components until true JEE
> 5 project(s)
> support is added to WTP. Thus the ejb3 facet today is basically just a
> "container"
> for the library dependencies and used as a "tag" to identify the ejb3
> capabilities
> and it will probably be phased out when WTP gets JEE 5 support.
> I write "probably" because another issue with WTP is it's restrictive
> layout/structure
> which users are not too happy about being restricted too - thus we
> might still need
> the EJB3 facet to support less rigid project structures (because WTP
> is bound to modules
> for which there can only be one even though that is not always what
> users want);
> but that is another bigger discussion that is a topic for another
> discussion (normally done at eclipsecon ;)
> Going back to the EJB3 facet'ing and our need to "hook" in and
> extend/bend WTP to allow
> us to provide EJB3 facilities our main issues have been mix of small
> things,
> but some problems based on the entire nature / structure of the API.
> Most of
> the small things had to do with bugs in background upstream classes that
> (seemingly) assumed only a very few people would actually be using or
> extending those
> classes and then the "impedance mismatch" between Server/Runtimes and
> JBoss (and other servers) configurability.
> To get a view/feel of the issues we bumped into the best way is to
> look at the bugs Robert Stryker reported/commented on in context of WTP:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=WebTools&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailreporter2=1&emaillongdesc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=rob.stryker&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
> I can unfortunately not always attend the JEE 5 conf call, but Robert
> Stryker
> will try and attend these.
> Happy New Year!
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