I can certainly sympathize with the desire
to not make this change for 1.5.3 due to translation and documentation impact,
however we need to consider the impact this is having on users. From the user
perspective this looks like a functional regression from 1.0.x. They used to
get positive feedback that something has happened in response to selecting
Validate XXX File. Now they get nothing when they select the new Validate
action. We’ve had bugs filed internally that essentially say “validate
is not working” due to this confusion.
- Konstantin
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Yup...and we dropped the "Validate XXX File"
menus for the DTD, WSDL, XML and XML schema validators in 1.5 in favour of
going with the consistent validation framework approach.
I
agree that this issue needs to be addressed. Personally I don't think the
addition of a validating dialog is appropriate for 1.5.3 as it requires UI
changes and there are therefore translation and documentation changes that will
need to be addressed as well.
Lawrence Mandel
Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
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Ah! The difference is that I was looking at the
Package Explorer. It looks like the Run Validation was only present on files in
the Project Explorer in the 1.0.x days. The “Validate XML File”
would show up in both.
- Konstantin
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This is anapshot from 1.0, it is called Run Validation back then.
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I got a question about the Validate context menu in 1.5. We’ve had some
people notice the difference from how this behaves between 1.0.x and 1.5.x.
1. It appears that Validate now appears on every file type, even ones that are
clearly not being validated (such as .properties and .java). Is this expected?
If so, could someone explain the reasoning for this change?
This is since .7, Validate action is a IResource contribution that is why it
shows up in all of the files.
[kk] I don’t know about that. I just tried this again in 1.0.x. The
context menu for an xml file shows “Validate XML File”. The context
menu for say MANIFEST.MF does not have any validate items.
2. When Validate menu item is selected, often it is not clear what happened. In
1.0.3 a dialog would appear that would show whether the file validated or not.
Is this expected? It seems a bit less user-friendly than the old behavior.
This is due to each validator run in a job, progressview is the place to see
the status now.
[kk] Unfortunately, when validation takes a very short time there is just a
brief flash and it is not clear to the user what has happened. It seems to me
that when validation is explicitly requested via an action menu it should not
run in a job. It should run in a modal progress dialog. Also a status message
box should be displayed at the end. This is especially important when
validation takes short enough amount of time that the progress dialog does not
show.
Thanks,
- Konstantin
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