RE: [wtp-dev] JUnit Framework

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm sure there could be some good, common,
helpful utility classes specifically for WTP, but I'll voice my usual 2
cautions. 

1. We need to be careful not to get
"tool fever" and end up spending more effort on the tools than
what the problem the tools are supposed to solve. 
(For example, there's some utilities
that load up a workspace with pre-existing projects. This is probably good,
but in my experience, most of 
us just like to get a copy of some starting
version, and then tweak it to suit individual needs. A good general purpose
one that met everyone's needs, and 
had all kinds options could be developed
and maintained ..... but .... not sure it would be worth the effort). 

2. We need to be careful in our test
suites, as in our code, to keep our component dependancies minimal and
keep them clean. This kind of correct 
architecture usually takes more work
and planning than just whipping up some quick tools and tweaking copies
as needed. But, keep in mind, part 
of our componentization effort is not
only that someone could "pull" just a subset to use ... that
they could "pull" the corresponding test buck to re-run 
those tests in what ever context they
wanted to. (So .... you wouldn't want to make someone who was using only
XML, to have to load J2EE also just to 
get some common tool). 

So, speaking of wasting time ... that
response was a lot longer than it needed to be. :)  
Do feel free to propose any process
or tool improvements you can 
contribute! 

Thanks, 

David

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Thanks Jeffrey.   I will
take a look.
 
We have started creating test
cases for the jsf tooling code we have so far.   You never know.  
Maybe we will come up with something that can be useful to all.
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Gerry, 

There are some abstract performance testcases in org.eclipse.wst.common.tests.performance
that you may find useful, depending on what you want to do... Other than
that, I'm not aware of any. Will you be interested in contributing some
:)? 

Thanks, 

Jeffrey Liu
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Thanks David.   Yes, I saw that and I know I must use this to eventually
hook into the build-and-run-tests process. 
  
What I really meant to say, I guess, is there a set of WTP specific TestCase/TestSuite
sub-classes that are commonly used?  Is there a set of common utility
classes used to do common setup-type things?   
  
Thanks, 
GK 
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Yes, sort of .... we use the same as "base Eclipse" .. its available
from their download page. 

Its a zip that starts with "eclipse-test-framework-
" 

You can see any of our test plugins, which have a test.xml file that "hooks
in" to it. 

David

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Hi All, 
 
Has there been a common testing framework developed for WTP that one might
be able to use?   I don't see one, but I could have missed it.  
If not, is one being considered? 
 
Thanks, 
Gerry Kessler 
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