Re: [wtp-dev] WTP 1.0 project facets

[Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I would to keep the number of standard facets to a minimal, easy to 
understand set. I am concerned about the potential abuse of the facet 
concept every time we think we have something a little different.  For 
example,  I could not understand all the ejb.modes they either need more 
explanation for me to understand what they mean or a clearer design; 
What is a development mode (jst.ejb.default,  ejb.dev.mode)?  I am 
assuming it is not a mode to distinguish runtime/development but 
xdoclet/vs another method for ejbs (i.e. beehive). It also seems the 
facets are one-dimensional (i.e. xdoclet for web/ejb will require two 
facets is this correct).

Along that line of thought, why should jstl need an additional facet, 
should it be default capability with jst.web facet with proper version.
Struts on the other hand can have a facet (as it is not a standard 
technology), but as Arthur pointed out, it is outside our scope.

Finally, the concept of a facet is not much different than eclipse base 
project natures (now that we do not have multiple modules/project). Like 
the natures and from a usability point-of-view, they should not be 
something that is exposed to users freely in all tools.  Facets are too 
abstract for a user (compared to a server or an html file). Most users 
will not care what facets are for as long as the tools do the work for 
them. If this is what we mean by presets, I am all for it.  Maybe, facet 
pages of the wizards should be optional .

I guess what I am suggesting is facets should be an  API level concept 
(as opposed to User tool level). We should take extra care when we add 
new ones, and  expose them to the users when there is no need to do so.

> First draft of a document describing the project facets that will be 
> in WTP 1.0 is available at
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> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/proposals/WtpProjectFacets.html
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> TBD: 
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> Â         the ejb-related facets are just a proposal at this point
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> Â         the Runtime Components list is incomplete, id strings may change
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> Â         Presets will probably be added
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> Â         no web service-related facets in there yet
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> Â         should WTP 1.0 include facet ids for Struts, JSTL, â ?
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> Also note that this is not a developerâs guide (e.g. no implement X 
> interface instructions).  Needs to be written...
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> Comments welcome.
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> -Ted
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