Re: [wtp-dev] XML/SSE improvements

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> Don't have to much free cycles to burn on it.
yeah, things are rough all over
but, remember, open source is not free ... 
its takes a community, so the more you invest, 
the more you'll get out of it. 

> I surely
> hope I can still provide my own code completion support for the xml
You probably can ... please see our viewer configuration
extension point
and see if it suits your needs. 

I'd like to say we'll have time to re-introduce "constrained
mode" 
for content assist, but ... I'd say only 40% likely
for 1.0.

"Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen@xxxxxxxxx>
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10/31/2005 10:54 AM

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:40:04 +0100, David M Williams
 
<david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Newsgroup would be better ... but for you Max, :)  I'll address
some of
> your question here.

Thanks ;)

> If I was you, I would not change your "towards production I-builds"
yet,
> if that's what you meant ...
> when M9 is declared would be a better time.

ok - i'll wait for M9. Don't have to much free cycles to burn on it.

> For example, StructuredXMLEditor doesn't exist any more ... I assume
you
> meant
> StructuredTextEditor ... but, read the javadoc closely ... "not
intended
> to
> be subclassed". If we can get wsdlTextEditor and xsdTextEditor
to  
> continue

yes, I meant StructuredTextEditor.

> The "content assist extension points" will not be in 1.0.
We'll be
> (looking at) following the platform's lead in this area (and they
> are planning to "push down" content assist participants
for 3.2.).

If you don't want to allow that then may I suggest to please at
least make and optionfor the current completion to only suggest
valid suggestions. The current support is more "in-the-way" than
helpfull since you need to know the DTD more or less by heart to be
effective with it.

You say "content assist extension points" will not be in 1.0,
I surely
hope I can still provide my own code completion support for the xml
so I can provide value completion for stuff that is not expressable via
DTD/schema.

/max


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> Hi,
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> (Not sure if this is best in the newsgroup or here, but just kick
me if
> its better for the newsgroup)
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> I'm in the grey zone at the moment since I have to figure out when
I want
> to move
> my plugin code from WTP 0.7 to WTP 1.0.
>
> As it stands I can see that the StructuredXMLEditor's api have been
made
> more public and that is good.
> The question is - is that API considered stable at the moment ? Mainly
if
> the extension points name
> and semantics are in place ? (api changes are easy to catch by the
> compiler, but the xml in plugin.xml does
> not complain if the extension point doesnt exist so damn hard to track
> down ;)
>
> Another thing is the quality of the code completion in XML (see
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=89811)
> which basically makes it very hard to create a valid xml file when
 
> writing
> the code by hand; and that does not
> need to be the case but as far as I can see in the WTP code I can't
 
> easily
> customize the code completion rules
> for XML yet. e.g. I need to order the inserts by relevance (or even
 
> remove
> non-valid xml).
>
> My question is if work have been done in this area with respect to
WTP  
> 1.0
> so I can actually get a real benefit
>  from upgrading to WTP 1.0 ? (I don't need all the functionallity,
just
> the
> possibility to order the proposals
> by validity and add required attributes/tag automatically to the inserted
> text - and hopefully without using
> internal API)
>
> thanks



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