Re: [wtp-dev] Added detail: Alternate flexible workspace proposals

[Chuck Bridgham <cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Naci,

Thanks for the feedback,

In regards to dependencies outside the
workspace.  We can do this now for utility jars.  The "J2EE
Module dependencies" page offers this option under "EAR Modules"
and "Web libraries".
The buttons "Add External jar"
 and "Add Variable" will settup classpath entries for these
jars, and the variable can be used for team sharing scenarios.
If a single shared folder is the requirment,
resource linking could be used here, as it doesn't require the folder to
be managed by the workspace, just a path to the filesystem.

I'm not sure I completely follow your
second scenario.  Are you describing multiple dependencies?  such
as an Web project depending on another war, that depends on a util jar?
 The util jar should be on the 
original Web projects classpath.  If
not, its a bug.  Maybe you can elaborate on this scenario?

Thanks - Chuck

Rational J2EE Tooling Team Lead
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC
Email:  cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 919-254-1848 (T/L: 444)

Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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09/19/2005 01:11 PM

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naci.dai and "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."

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Subject	Re: [wtp-dev] Added detail:  Alternate flexible workspace proposals

Chuck,

Thank you for the detailed description.  I appreciate the effort to
be as inclusive as possible to as many different project scenarios.  
The concept of a "web source" source folder is a good one, and
it is conceptually similar to jdt so this it is also good for usability.

There is one point that was not very clear to me. Can you also comment
on how flexible projects propose to manage "web libraries" (i.e
jars in web-inf/lib ).  I would like to hear your comments on two
issues. First, there is a good level of interest in being able to refer
to out-of-workspace repositories for libraries.  For example, struts,
and spring libraries can be stored in a different folder and can be shared
by many web applications.  More specifically, I am looking for a maven-like
library/classpath resolution.  I think maven has it right when it
comes to managing library dependencies.

Second, I would like to be able to manage web-inf/lib  as a library
entry to be used in project build-paths.  For example, if I have a
web module, the libraries that the web module contributes to the project
build-path (i.e web-inf/lib and web-inf/classes) should be an entity that
is usable by the developer in other project and editable by the developer
(relates to my first question).  The scenario where this is useful
is when  a module is split into a set of projects.

everyone, 

I have added some additional details, and two additional scenarios to demonstrate
the differences between our current support , and the proposals in our
WTP 1.5 timeframe. 

http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/jst/components/j2ee/proposals/WTPFlexibleProjectProposals.html

It must be understood that our current support will remain through WTP
1.0, and existing metadata/structure will be migated to any new format/proposal
in future releases. 

Please respond with your feedback by September 27, we will be making some
decisions on this topic soon. 

Thanks - Chuck 

Rational J2EE Tooling Team Lead
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC
Email:  cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx
Phone: 919-254-1848 (T/L: 444)

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