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>- For R1.0, include the doc features in jst and wst features (i.e. doc
>plugins are zipped with wtp.jat and wst.jar).  To do this we will only
>need to have an <include> for doc features in the top level jst amd wst
>feature.  Docs would be built with every single build for R1.0.  No
>extra effort for integration.
Yup. That's how it was working and I agree that's how it should work. I just want to ensure we are able to build the docs separately for updates and the online help system (and it sounds like we'll be able to).

Thanks,

Lawrence Mandel

Software Developer
IBM Rational Software
Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814   Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx


Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Yes,

We do not want to create a seperate build setup for all components.  
Currently, we can build the wst-doc and jst-doc features without
changing the scripts by simply passing (-Dcomponent=wts-doc).  What I
was suggesting is:

- For R1.0, include the doc features in jst and wst features (i.e. doc
plugins are zipped with wtp.jat and wst.jar).  To do this we will only
need to have an <include> for doc features in the top level jst amd wst
feature.  Docs would be built with every single build for R1.0.  No
extra effort for integration.


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> The "build docs separately" isn't really a problem.  The point Naci
> was making was that the doc features are defined along with all the
> other features,
> as described in
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/arch_and_design/subsystems/SubsystemsAndFeatures.html
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> Once that's done, there can always be a new "packaging build
> component" (I think that's a "distributable" in Naci's terms),
>  defined that includes only the top most one
> (jst-enterprise-userdocs), all others included
> "automatically" and zipped up and ftp'd to wherever. Its expected that
> one would only run "on demand".
> [Technically, this would be true of any of the features in
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/arch_and_design/subsystems/SubsystemsAndFeatures.html
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> ... that's what is for .. and we just normally don't "distribute" all
> those mini packages.
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> In other words, there's no need for special build scripts, or map
> files, or separate build projects, or directories, that we can tell.
>
> And ... keep in mind  ... while "late in the development cycle" might
> be true, and there certainly could
> be a "maintenance release" that really only included doc changes,
> in general, we still need the English version of docs
> finished and ready to release when the code is finished and released.
>
> We can chat on who and when creates the "doc featues".
> (Anyone can, any time, but I think underscores should be used in
> project names, instead of the hypens
> in the spec).
>
> David
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> *Lawrence Mandel <lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx>*
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> Naci,
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> >docs are not included in the current build.  
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> Does this mean docs will not be included in M8?
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> >They will not be built seperately but included with features.  
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> I think it is a mistake to remove the capability to build docs
> separately. Docs are typically written late in the development cycle.
> A separate doc build gives us a way to update the docs after a release
> without updating all of WTP (or WST, JST, or JSF). In addition, the
> PMC discussed this on one of their calls (unfortunately I can't find
> the minutes) where it was agreed that a separate doc build will be
> beneficial to WTP.
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> Lawrence Mandel
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> Software Developer
> IBM Rational Software
> Phone: 905 - 413 - 3814   Fax: 905 - 413 - 4920
> lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx
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> *Naci Dai <naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
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> Committers,
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> In order to improve our builds, there has been some changes.  The old
> build releng.builder is now retired. long live the releng.wtpbuilder.  
> This will not have a major impact on most committers as releasing and
> maps stay the same with a few changes.  You might have noticed that
> there are has been some differences.  The work is still in progress so
> please bear with us and provide any feedback you have at:
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> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108186
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108259
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> Here is what is different.
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>   * Builds are continuous, the results are uploaded to a different
>     area (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/committers).  These
>     uploads are temporary and will be kept until a build is declared.
>     When a build is declared it will be moved to regular builds area
>     (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads).  The home page
>     is not active but the but the trial builds can be downloaded using
>     the links in notice emails (wtp.releng mail list).
>   * wtpbuilder separates build scripts removed api-checks and
>     performances tests.  These will be done on declared builds only.
>     This is work in progress.
>   * wtpbuilder has the concept of a _component _and a
>     _distributable_.  A _component _produces a jar from feature
>     definitions (such as jst or wst).  A distributable is  a tested
>     set of components (ı.e. wst, jst, jst.tests etc.) which have a
>     site where these reports can be reviewed and artifacts can be
>     downloaded.  Currently, only distributable is wtp.
>   * docs are not included in the current build.  They will not be
>     built seperately but included with features.  Any component which
>     is not top level, must be included in a top-level feature.
>     Currently wtp distributable has 8 top level features (wst,
>     wst-sdk, wst.tests, wts.perf.tests and jst equivalent of these)
>     (Lawrence can we update the features so that docs get included
>     with wst and jst)
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