Re: [wtp-dev] Why Do We Need the Preference to Enable Multiple Modules p

[Timothy Deboer <deboer@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The other reason it is off by default
is that there are several restrictions with putting multiple modules in
a project. For instance, the classpath is shared - this means we can't
validate the modules correctly, and we can't target the modules to different
servers. I vote that the default remains off, but that we do some usability
work to make it easier to switch. For instance, we could remove the preference
page and put the option directly in the new module wizard (under an 'Advanced'
setting ;-) and with a short description), with a sticky selection so that
it keeps its state the next time the user creates a module.

Tim deBoer
WebSphere Tools - IBM Canada Ltd.
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John Lanuti <jlanuti@xxxxxxxxxx>
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07/07/2005 09:15 AM

Please respond to
"General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues."

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Arthur, 

The flexible project preference was added to give a better "out of
the box" experience.  If a new user picks up WTP, it is much
easier 
for them to deal with the concepts surrounding one module per project.
 The wizards are easier to follow and it hides a lot of the complexity
from them.  It was our guess that most users would still be using
this one module per project paradigm, however, we absolutely want to allow
flexibility 
and show off all the work we did to provide this flexibility.  In
this respect, multiple modules per project is an advanced feature for advanced
users.  And 
what do we typically do with advanced options and settings?  We hide
them by default.  This was the reasoning behind the preference --
to hide the 
complexity and confusion to someone who did not care about these advanced
flexible options. 

That being said, I guess I'd like to hear feedback from others on what
they think.  I mean, if it confused Arthur, it seems like it will
surely confuse a novice user!  :-) 
Maybe we could keep the preference, but leave it on by default instead
of off? 

Thanks, 

John Lanuti
Software Engineer, IBM Rational
jlanuti@xxxxxxxxxx
t/l 441-7861

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and he feels this world can grow. 
He's not afraid of feeling, he loves what he believes, he feels, and he
grows."  - Of A Revolution

Arthur Ryman <ryman@xxxxxxxxxx>
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07/07/2005 08:00 AM

Please respond to
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Subject	[wtp-dev] Why Do We Need the Preference to Enable Multiple Modules        per Project?

While using WTP to develop some Web apps, I ran into a feature of our UI
that I find problematic, and I'd like to hear from other people about why
we need this feature. 

The feature is the Flexible Project Preference. The user now has to explicity
check a box to enable multiple modules per project.

I find this problematic for several reasons: 

1. It caused a usability problem. I created a project with a Web module
in an earlier build of WTP and then worked on it with a later build which
has this preference disabled. It caused the Web service wizard to fail
[1]. This will be corrected, but it pointed out to me that this preference
is causing bimodal behavior. Our code in now more complex than it needs
to be and there is more potential for bugs and usability problems.

2. We went to a lot a development effort to upgrade the code base to allow
multiple modules per project. This should be the WTP norm. We should promote
this feature and improve our UI to make it very easy for users. Disabling
it seems like a step backwards and an admission of failure.

3. The initial wizards to create multiple modules were somewhat awkward,
and this may have motivated this preference. However, the wizards are very
usable now so I believe this preference has outlived its usefulness and
is now just extra baggage that should be jetisonned asap.

I have created a bug [2] to remove this preference. Please review it and
voted for it if you agree. 

Is anyone a strong advocate of this preference? If so, please explain why
you think we should keep it. I'd like to discuss this in our telecon today.

Let's move on this quickly since time is running out. Thx.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=102244
[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=102487

Arthur Ryman,
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