| Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support |
| Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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| Marshall Culpepper <marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx>
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| Marshall Culpepper <marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx>
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Alright! :-)
Thomas
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Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
Thomas,
Yes, I believe we cited both JSR 77 and JSR 88 in our plans. We need to
start making progress on those.
Arthur Ryman,
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| "Thomas Yip" <tyip@xxxxxxx>
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For deployment, I think “JSR 88: J2EE Application Deployment” is the
way to go.
It defines a standard way of deploy/undeploy/start/stop an application.
Looking at the expert groups, the momentum is there.
However, I haven’t heard many vendors have implemented them in their release
version. When it is ready, we certainly want to help on getting the control
and ui in WTP.
I believe debugging and profiling support doesn’t require much modification.
I am not sure there is a defacto way of using JMX for remote starting and
stopping of server. Maybe the assumption is that the server is always up
and running during the development.
Thomas
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Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
Gerry,
Tim Deboer is the authoritative source on this topic. However, the current
support does not require JMX. You can use any proprietary means of controlling
the server. Our intension is to move towards the JCP standards in this
area such as JSR 77. Are you interesting in working on that?
Aside from publishing, you should support debugging and profiling. You
should also be able to restart the server or a specific application, and
do the usual config such as adding or deleting applications.
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
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| "Gerry Kessler" <gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Arthur,
Thanks for the response - I do understand that a remote server would require
a controller of some kind like JMX to manage it. More specifically,
I am looking to find out what services, if any, the WTP framework supplies
for remote servers. If there are services, how do I plugin to them?
What are the implied requirements for "supporting" a remote host?
Clearly publishing to it is a must-have as there would be little
point without it. What else?
Thanks,
Gerry Kessler
Oracle
-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Ryman [mailto:ryman@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:47 PM
To: gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx;
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Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Remote Server Support
Gerry,
A remote server is a server that is located on another machine. You need
some type of controller on that machine, or use JMX.
Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development
phone: +1-905-413-3077, TL 969-3077
assistant: +1-905-413-2411, TL 969-2411
fax: +1-905-413-4920, TL 969-4920
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| "Gerry Kessler" <gerry.kessler@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Tim deBoer posted the following in the newsgroup recently:
" The WTP server framework fully supports remote servers, however
none of the
current server types that have been contributed to WTP do. There are no
immediate plans for remote server support, but contributions may appear
in
later versions."
Could someone please clarify what is meant by "supports remote servers"?
What does the framework provide? What would the server provider
be expected to provide? Documentation?
Thanks,
Gerry Kessler
Oracle _______________________________________________
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