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Re: [wtp-dev] Looking for committer with an interest in server-side unit testing and a big heart


Hi,

I don't think we have a conflict with TPTP here either. We're really just providing J2EE specific JUnit tests, so this is just an extension of the platform's JUnit support to our specific artifact types. It's tied much tighter to our J2EE server integration than it would be to any general testing tool.

Thanks,
Tim deBoer
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David,


Let me clarify. WTP is not providing any new runtime frameworks. We only provide tools that support standard runtime frameworks. However Cactus is a development tool. It is in the same category as JUnit or Ant. WTP should help users test code. However, WTP does not have the mission of developing general purpose testing tools. That is the mission of TPTP. That being said, domain specific test aids are in scope. Cactus is very focused on servlets so any help WTP can provide to make its use easier for developers is fine. WTP should also provide TPTP integration.


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Dan, I confess my ignorance (too) and ask ... what's the benefit to WTP?
>From the Apache Cactus website, "
Cactus is a simple test framework for unit testing server-side java code (Servlets, EJBs, Tag Libs, Filters, ...). ".
While this is a great thing, WTP isn't providing "server side java code" per se, are we?
So ... just wondering ... (I suspect you've explained this before/else where and I've lost track).
Thanks. (And, please, interpret the questions as interest, not resistance :)



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Hi Dan,


I'm the most likely candidate to adopt this code, and was going to respond back to your earlier note. I think the code looks good and ready to go, I just have a couple minor concerns that hopefully will be easy to resolve. The first is that I have a passing familiarity with Cactus, but I'm definitely not an expert. I was hoping the community would chime in with feedback or even a "hey, that'd be great!". I'd like to get at least one other person who is familiar with Cactus to give this a try and give a thumbs-up. If nobody else offers, maybe one of the other guys at BEA?


Second, I don't have the resource to do anything more than review & commit code, answer questions, etc. I doubt this is an issue, but I just need to be clear that I'm expecting you to maintain the code with cleanup, general release polishing, and fixing bugs.


We can take the rest of this offline and hopefully get the code in soon!


Thanks,

Tim deBoer
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Hi everyone,

I am still in the market for a committer to adopt the cactus code. I would love to see it get into 1.0. It is functional and has a very nice README if you would like to try it out. I do need to take a few minutes to move it into internal packages but I am holding off until I know where this is going to be packaged and whether it is going to be in its own plug-in or part of another.

So be kind. Support server-side testing and adopt this poor lonely plug-in that needs a home.

Thanks,

Dan

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