RE: [wtp-dev] should WST have references to JDT?

[Arthur Ryman <ryman@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Dave,

Users should be able to select Features
that meet their needs without installing all of WTP. Personally, I would
really like to see a set of Features aimed at XML developers. I agree we
need to avoid forcing users to install more than they need. However, that
is a different goal than completely removing any JDT dependency from ALL
plug-ins.

Arthur Ryman,
Rational Desktop Tools Development

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"Dave Carlson" <maillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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11/12/2004 10:47 AM

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I believe it's important for WST to be installable
on the base platform
distribution without JDT.  Fernando cites the example of PHP developers.
But a significant use case that I want to support is XML document authors,
XSD designers, and (in fewer cases) WSDL designers.  Plus the validation
framework for all these structured documents.  For these users, the
"cognitive clutter" of unnecessary perspectives, views, and menus
should be
removed.  Java development is not part of their role.

I completely understand the short-term need of reusing convenience utilities
from the JDT, but I think it's a mistake to design in a long-term
dependency.  Of course, some plug-ins will specifically support java
or j2ee
activities with WST, but those plug-ins should be packaged as an optional
feature.

Regards,
  Dave Carlson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wtp-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:wtp-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fernando@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:19 AM
> To: wtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] should WST have references to JDT?
> 
> 
> Hi Nic,
> 
> > I do not see any problems with WST referencing JDT, if it needs
its 
> > functionality, since JDT is part of base platform.
> 
> I don't think JDT is part of the base plataform. Should CDT 
> for example
> developers require Java suppport? Wasn't the reason there's 
> WST and JST
> supporting non-java web development and j2ee development 
> without bloat?
> 
> I guess most if not all people interested on WST today are 
> j2ee developers.
> Maybe someone should invite PHP developers like ThruStudio 
> and PHPeclipse to
> joind so the project actually delivers a foundation for 
> generic web development.
> 
> 
> []s, Fernando Lozano
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