Re: [wb-dev] WB and Neon

[Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I have created the hudson job and I think it works fine. See
https://hudson.eclipse.org/windowbuilder/job/org.eclipse.windowbuilder

What is missing is the copy of the build result to the windowbuilder
official download side.

Best regards, Lars

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Eric Clayberg for the kind words for me.
>
> Meanwhile Frederic Gurr helped by contributing the signing for the WB
> build. So we are almost there. I plan to setup a build on the HIPP via
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=497162.
>
> Eric Rizzo, I suggest to raise your hand to Eric Clayberg if you want
> to help with the code and build. maintenance.
>
> Best regards, Lars
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:09 AM, Eric Clayberg <clayberg@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I believe the final required step is getting the build signed and the update
>> site published.
>>
>> I would agree that the WB project is completely dysfunctional due to lack of
>> viable committers, and it does make the community look bad. For a project
>> that is well used, no one (until just recently) has been interested in
>> providing any help. I have asked for new committers many times over the
>> years as our existing resources dwindled with no interest whatsoever. The
>> project finally "broke" when we lost our Google-based build infrastructure
>> and our build guy effectively stepped down. That meant we had no way to
>> create a new build at all. Fortunately, Lars stepped up to create a new
>> Tycho based build and became our first new committer in 5+ years (Thank you,
>> Lars!!). That build had to pretty much be created from scratch and that has
>> put an enormous burden on Lars' time. Getting some of the more difficult
>> parts done (like the signing) have been difficult and required new
>> Eclipse.org based infrastructure to be set up.
>>
>> In the end once the new build is completely set up and automated, the
>> project will be much better off at least in the sense that it will have a
>> current build that will track bug fixes and Eclipse releases. The project is
>> still extremely light on active committers and no one is actively working on
>> the code itself. It has basically been in long term maintenance mode simply
>> to support those Java IDE users who expect it to be there. New functionality
>> has not been added for years although the existing functionality continues
>> to work pretty well. A couple of the committers have some limited
>> availability to fix critical bugs but that is about it. The project very
>> much needs new committers interested in taking the project forward.
>>
>> Lars can chime in with anything he needs specifically to keep this moving
>> forward (and once again, thank you, Lars, for coming to WB's rescue!!).
>>
>> I will also reiterate my plea to the community for folks interested in
>> working on the project. Without new committers, WB will stay in long term
>> keep-the-lights on mode with only critical bug fixes applied and no new
>> functionality.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Eric Rizzo <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since WindowBuilder was not included in the Neon simrel, nor do you have a
>>> Neon (4.6) compatible build available in your own repo, this is a bad look
>>> for Eclipse; most Java IDE users expect GUI building functionality that has
>>> been there for years.
>>>
>>> I see that Lars worked to get a Tycho-based build working, and I've
>>> commented on a couple of bugs*, asking what it will take to get a release
>>> that can be installed into Neon, but so far there has been no response at
>>> all. To this outsider, it really appears that the WB project is somewhat
>>> dysfunctional and leadership is not being responsive to the community.
>>>
>>> I'm not making accusations, just asking what it will take to get a
>>> Neon-compatible release of WB so the broad Eclipse Java user community isn't
>>> left with home-grown updates sites, questions, and FUD.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> * https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=437131
>>> * https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=481842
>>> * https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=497162
>>>
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