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Original Message ----
From: Mike Greenawalt
<mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Voice Tools general developers
<vtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 6:57:45 PM
Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Re: [JVoiceXML-developer] Text based VTP
extension
Dirk, your comments are worth far more than 2 cents! ;-)
I am still of the opinion that CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE fills the bill
for
your suggested CAPABILITY_TEXT. The Javadoc comment about it is
sufficiently vague, I think, to allow that.
If we add a mechanism for entering text to the browser, are we not just
a step away from defining a mechanism for "playing" a dialog to the
browser? That seems useful for testing an application. Does not seem
like it would be too hard to read a file and send text line by line to
the browser.
Can you offer any more specs for VoiceXMLBrowserOutput? Browsers with
which I am familiar don't do any output beyond the audio response and
the log, so I guess I don't quite 'get' the idea of
VoiceXMLBrowserOutput.
-- Mike
Dirk Schnelle wrote:
> My $.02:
>
> Unfortuntately the current javadoc comment does not state directly
the
> purpose of the capability. It reads:
> This capability indicates that this VoiceXML browser is capable of
> responding to requests to sendInput().
>
> sendInput() in turn uses VoiceXMLBrowserInput which can be used to
> deliverthe user's input as a string to the voice browser.
>
> Our intention for text based interaction goes beyond this. It
requires
> an additional VoiceXMLBrowserOutput. IMHO this can not be covered
by
> the log panel.
>
> So the current concepts point into this direction but require more
> thinking.
>
> /dirk
>>
>> Honestly, it's been so long, my memory is completely gone :)
>>
>>
>>
>> If the interactive capability's purpose isn't clear to
everyone, and
>> there's no javadoc on the matter, that should say
something..breaking
>> the API is never a good idea if it can be avoided but I
haven't seen
>> any consumers of that constant in existence so I think it
might be
>> safer to clarify the naming.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Mike Greenawalt <
mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Voice Tools general developers <
vtp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2008 12:05:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [vtp-dev] Re: [JVoiceXML-developer] Text based
VTP extension
>>
>> I have looked at the patch. Looks OK on visual inspection, but
I have
>> not yet checked it out live.
>>
>> There has been a suggestion that CAPABILITY_TEXT be added to
the
>> IVoiceXMLBrowser interface, and that be used to control the
actual
>> availability of the text input. The patch has been implemented
to check
>> the existing capability, CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE to achieve
that control.
>>
>> As far as I know, CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE was intended for just
that
>> purpose -- to indicate the browser could interpret text
utterances. Why
>> don't we leave it at that, and not put in the new capability?
>>
>> Brent cooked all this up originally, perhaps he remembers a
different
>> intent for CAPABILITY_INTERACTIVE.
>>
>> -- Mike
>>
>> Trip Gilman wrote:
>> > I believe the first run of the work is sitting in
bugzilla in a patch.
>> > I was going to try to apply it, but since Dirk will be
joining us
>> > shortly I put that on hold. Mike, if you want to pop it
into the
>> > repository now I’m good with that.
>> >
>> > Trip
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/30/08 5:17 AM, "Mike Greenawalt" <
mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:
mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
>> >
>> > Has a bug been filed against this enhancement effort?
I need
>> > something on which to hang any work I might do about
it.
>> >
>> > -- Mike
>> >
>> > Trip Gilman wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm very glad to see this moving forward. I was
hoping Mike
>> > Greenawalt was
>> > still around to point you guys in the right
direction. Mike
>> > had signed up
>> > to maintain that section of the code base, but may
have moved
>> > on to other
>> > pastures.
>> >
>> > Also, I haven't moved the browser code over to the
new svn
>> > repository
>> > yet because I wasn't sure if anyone was going to
continue work
>> > on it. Just
>> > let me know which components you need moved and
I'll
>> > transition them to the
>> > new repository.
>> >
>> > Trip Gilman
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/29/08 8:10 AM, "Aurelian Maga" <
aurelianmaga@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:
aurelianmaga@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> > <mailto:
aurelianmaga@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:
aurelianmaga@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dirk,
>> >
>> > I totally agree.
>> >
>> > Relu.
>> >
>> > ---
jvoicexml-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:
jvoicexml-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Relu,
>> >
>> > I CC this mail to the VTP mailing list to
keep them
>> > up to date about our
>> > activities at JVoiceXml regarding a VTP
extension.
>> >
>> > I had a look at your extension to support
text based
>> > input fort he VTP
>> > debug view. You realized this requirement
by a small
>> > input box and a
>> > button to submit the entered data. This is
OK for a
>> > first approach.
>> >
>> > I have the following suggestions for
improvement:
>> >
>> > - we should extend
>> > org.eclipse.vtp.launching.IVoiceXMLBrowser
by the
>> > property CAPABILITY_TEXT
>> > - text based interaction should only be
allowed if
>> > the browser
>> > implementation returns this property upon
>> > hasCapability request
>> > - the input field is a bit small. Would it
be good
>> > to have the
>> > possibility to toggle the log and dialog
view? The
>> > dialog view reflects
>> > the system response and the user input.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> >
>> > -dirk
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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